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Why won’t Angie’s List refund my money?

When the movers never show up, he expected his money back but got nowhere

- Christophe­r Elliott Christophe­r Elliott’s latest book is “How To Be The World’s Smartest Traveler” (National Geographic). You can get realtime answers to any consumer question on his forum, elliott.org/ forum, or by emailing him at chris@elliott. org.

Q

I paid Angie’s List for movers through its “Big Deal” service with a local company called Gaye Muscular Movers. I confirmed the appointmen­t by text with the owner the night before to meet at the storage facility at 7 a.m.

No one showed up. I called the company and got through to voicemail.

At 11 a.m., I received a “we’re on our way” text message. That was an outright lie. At noon, I got a call that the movers were trying to find a truck or trailer.

After five hours sitting at the storage location waiting for them to show up, I went home. Then I received a call from them asking me to rent a truck. They promised they would move my items. At 3:30 p.m., they called to say they still were trying to find a truck or trailer.

I had given notice to the storage facility and incurred extra fees for not vacating as scheduled, and I hired another mover.

I explained to Angie’s List that I wanted a refund. Angie’s List refused because it was more than 30 days since I purchased the deal through them. Angie’s List disingenuo­usly asserts that I always have a $199 credit with this moving company to be used at any time in the future.

I have absolutely no need for local moving services at any time in the future, and the moving company refuses to answer its phone or return my calls, and obviously refused to provide the promised service.

This caused me significan­t extra cost and forced me to buy the needed service from another source. This company was listed on Angie’s list as an “A” grade company, so one expects the company to be reputable. Can you help me get my $199 back?

— Larry Hickerson,

Peoria, Arizona

A

Angie’s List should have refunded your money ASAP. But not according to the terms you agreed to.

A closer look at its “Big Deal” offers shows that you agreed to a 30day limit on refunds. And, remarkably, you agreed to those terms — probably without even realizing it (https://content.angieslist.com/angieslist/TermsAndCo­nditions.pdf). Angie’s List, it says, “is not responsibl­e for the accessibil­ity or unavailabi­lity of any Service Provider or for your interactio­ns and dealings with Service Provider.” Put differentl­y, if your movers didn’t show up, it’s not Angie’s fault.

I’m not impressed with Angie’s offer of a $199 credit. I mean, what were you going to do with that? How often does anyone move? Also, why on earth would you want to work with the same company again?

It looks like you did your best to put your grievance in writing after calling Angie’s List. Good work!

Most people with a grievance like this would spend hours on the phone in pursuit of their lost $199. You started a nice paper trail of the correspond­ence between you and Angie’s List.

Not much good it did you, though.

You could have reached out to someone higher up at the company to explain your situation. I list the names, numbers and email addresses for all the Angie’s List executives on my consumerad­vocacy site. I think a brief, polite email might have convinced them that their policy shouldn’t really apply to your situation. You say you attempted to contact Angie’s executives, to no avail.

As a last resort, you tried to dispute your credit card charge, but that didn’t work. Your bank sided with Angie’s List. I contacted Angie’s List on your behalf. It reviewed your case and promised you a full refund.

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