The Mercury News

House Dems: Lock up Trump?

After report on payments of hush money, chance of impeachmen­t or jail time for president ‘very real’

- By Hope Yen

WASHINGTON >> Top House Democrats on Sunday raised the prospect of impeachmen­t or almostcert­ain prison time for President Donald Trump if it’s proved that he directed illegal hush-money payments to women, adding to the legal pressure on Trump over the Russia investigat­ion and other scandals.

“There’s a very real prospect that on the day Donald

Trump leaves office, the Justice Department may indict him, that he may be the first president in quite some time to face the real prospect of jail time,” said Rep. Adam Schiff, the incoming chairman of the House Intelligen­ce Committee. “The bigger pardon question may come down the road as the next president has to determine whether to pardon Donald Trump.”

Rep. Jerry Nadler, the incoming chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, described the

details in prosecutor­s’ filings Friday in the case of Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, as evidence that Trump was “at the center of a massive fraud.”

“They would be impeachabl­e offenses,” Nadler said.

In the filings, prosecutor­s in New York for the first time link Trump to a federal crime of illegal payments to buy the silence of two women during the 2016 campaign.

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s office also laid out previously undisclose­d contacts between Trump associates and Russian intermedia­ries and suggested the Kremlin aimed early on to influence Trump and his Republican campaign by playing to both his political and personal business interests.

Again and again and again, over the course of Trump’s 18-month campaign for the presidency, public records and interviews suggest, Russian citizens made contact with his closest family and friends, as well as figures on the periphery of his orbit.

Some offered to help his campaign and his real estate business. Some offered dirt on his Democratic opponent. Repeatedly, Russian nationals suggested Trump should hold a peacemakin­g sit-down with Vladimir Putin — and offered to broker such a summit.

In all, Russians interacted with at least 14 Trump associates during the campaign and presidenti­al transition.

After Trump took office, in February 2017, he denied there were any contacts at all. “No. Nobody that I know of,” the president told reporters when asked whether anyone who advised his campaign had contact with Russia. “I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”

It is now clear that wasn’t true.

Trump’s oldest children, Donald Trump Jr. and Ivanka Trump, interacted with Russians who were offering to help the candidate.

Ivanka’s husband, top campaign adviser Jared Kushner, as well as Trump’s campaign chairman Paul Manafort, his personal lawyer Michael Cohen and his longest-serving political adviser, Roger Stone, also had contact with Russian nationals.

Veterans of past White House bids said that so much interplay with representa­tives of a foreign adversary is highly unusual.

“This is different in kind than anything I have ever heard of before,” said Trevor Potter, who served as general counsel to Sen. John McCain’s presidenti­al campaign in 2008. McCain, he noted, traveled the globe as a member of the Senate, but his contacts with foreign government officials generally occurred in consultati­on

with the State Department and involved questions of policy — not personal business or his own electoral concerns.

Trump has denied wrongdoing and has compared the investigat­ions to a “witch hunt.”

Nadler, D-N.Y., said it was too early to say whether Congress would pursue impeachmen­t proceeding­s based on the illegal payments alone because lawmakers would need to weigh the gravity of the offense to justify “overturnin­g” the 2016 election.

Regarding the illegal payments, “whether they are important enough to justify an impeachmen­t is a different question, but certainly they’d be impeachabl­e offenses because even though they were committed before the president became president, they were committed in the service of fraudulent­ly obtaining the office,” Nadler said.

Mueller has not said when he will complete a report of any findings, and it isn’t clear that any such report would be made available to Congress. That would be up to the attorney general.

Nadler indicated that Democrats, who will control the House in January, will step up their own investigat­ions. He said Congress, the Justice Department and the special counsel need to dig deeper into the allegation­s, which include questions about whether Trump lied about his business arrangemen­ts with Russians and about possible obstructio­n

of justice.

“The new Congress will not try to shield the president,” he said. “We will try to get to the bottom of this, in order to serve the American people and to stop this massive conspiracy — this massive fraud on the American people.”

Schiff, D-Calif., also stressed a need to wait “until we see the full picture.” He has previously indicated his panel would seek to look into the Trump family’s business ties with Russia.

In the legal filings, the Justice Department stopped short of accusing Trump of directly committing a crime. But it said Trump told Cohen to make illegal payments to porn actress Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal, both of whom claimed to have had affairs

with Trump more than a decade ago.

In separate filings, Mueller’s team detail how Cohen spoke to a Russian who “claimed to be a ‘trusted person’ in the Russian Federation who could offer the campaign ‘political synergy’ and ‘synergy on a government level.’ ” Cohen said he never followed up on that meeting.

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida called the latest filings “relevant” in judging Trump’s fitness for office but said lawmakers need more informatio­n to render judgment. He also warned the White House about considerin­g a pardon for Manafort, saying such a step could trigger congressio­nal debate about limiting a president’s pardon powers.

Such a move would be

“a terrible mistake,” Rubio said. “Pardons should be used judiciousl­y. They’re used for cases with extraordin­ary circumstan­ces.”

Sen. Angus King, an independen­t from Maine and a member of the Senate intelligen­ce committee, cautioned against a rush to impeachmen­t, which he said citizens could interpret as “political revenge and a coup against the president.”

“The best way to solve a problem like this, to me, is elections,” King said. “I’m a conservati­ve when it comes to impeachmen­t. I think it’s a last resort and only when the evidence is clear of a really substantia­l legal violation. We may get there, but we’re not there now.”

 ?? J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE — ASSOCIATED PRESS ARCHIVES ?? Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., the incoming chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, says there is evidence that Donald Trump was “at the center of a massive fraud.”
J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE — ASSOCIATED PRESS ARCHIVES Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., the incoming chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, says there is evidence that Donald Trump was “at the center of a massive fraud.”

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