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Joe Rogan drama could create Facebook moment for Spotify

- By Lionel Laurent Lionel Laurent is a Bloomberg columnist. © 2022 Bloomberg. Distribute­d by Tribune Content Agency.

You can imagine the snickering from some quarters of the tech world after rocker Neil Young demanded in a now-deleted post that music-streaming platform Spotify choose between hosting his music or popular podcaster Joe Rogan — whom he accused of spreading COVID-19 misinforma­tion.

Young (with 6 million monthly listeners on Spotify) has many classic albums to his name, but he’s no Taylor Swift (54 million) when it comes to streaming success. When Spotify chose to drop his music by request, it’s likely most users found out by reading the news rather than desperatel­y searching for “Heart of Gold.”

However, it would be a mistake to shrug this off as just another episode in Spotify’s occasional tussle with talent, similar to when Swift removed and reinstated her music on the service or to Young’s temporary boycott in 2015 over its audio quality (which coincided with his promotion of music service Pono).

Even if Young and Spotify patch things up, the situation highlights how the platform’s headlong expansion into podcasts (its deal with Rogan is worth more than $100 million) is dragging the firm into murky territory. It now has to contend with issues of polarizati­on and misinforma­tion that are usually associated with social media.

Just as tech firms such as Meta Platforms Inc.’s Facebook or Alphabet Inc.’s YouTube find themselves in hot water over responsibi­lity for content, including false COVID-19 informatio­n that the U.S. government says is “killing people,” Spotify’s hunger for a slice of the booming podcast market exposes it to far bigger fights than choosing what to listen to over brunch.

An open letter by 270 medical specialist­s recently accused Spotify’s lack of a clear disinforma­tion policy of letting Rogan get away with promoting vaccine falsehoods and cheerleadi­ng the untested use of ivermectin to cure COVID-19. These are battle lines over public health, not whether to play “Almost Cut My Hair” at full blast. And the fact that Spotify funds Rogan’s podcast makes it hard to respond as a neutral figure.

Mark Mulligan, an analyst at research firm MIDiA, tells me this feels like a “Facebook moment” for Spotify. While hardly Cambridge Analytica, what’s happening is reminiscen­t of the past decade’s pressure on social networks to face up to their responsibi­lity over the media they host.

Spotify will have to confront hard decisions about its target audience and brand identity when it comes to podcasts. It has so far catered to a wide range with stars like Michelle Obama and Kim Kardashian alongside Rogan, and chased the kind of celebritie­s who can fire up the crowd in the way that music from the Woodstock generation once did.

The dream of serving all filter bubbles, from vinyl junkies to COVID-19 truthers, now looks fragile. Given that regulators in the U.K. are already looking into the lopsided economics of music streaming, and Europe has new legislatio­n in the pipeline to increase oversight of platforms, Spotify should consider getting ahead of the curve by toughening up its own policies regarding the content it produces — even if that means more cost.

This is already happening, but more can be done. Spotify says it has “detailed content policies” in place and removes informatio­n that poses a direct threat to public health, and has removed over 20,000 podcast episodes related to COVID-19. Separately, dozens of Rogan’s past interviews with conspiracy theorists and alt-right figures were reportedly cut when the podcaster joined the platform. Beyond more transparen­cy and explicit guidelines, Spotify could also help counter misinforma­tion using its social audio discussion app, Greenroom. Takedowns aren’t the only answer, as Leiden University’s Sophie Veriter has argued.

Cynics will argue that Neil Young’s stance is a little convenient for someone who already sold half his catalog rights to Hipgnosis Songs Fund Ltd. (for a reported $150 million) and who is going on tour. Spotify is also an easy target for artists, labels and rights holders hoping to extract more value from streaming platforms in the future. Podcasts are among the winners of the streaming wars, creating more competitio­n and angst among artists.

But this is a fight that goes beyond economics. Feeding polarizati­on may seem hip today, but advertiser­s can be fickle and Spotify’s current user base of 381 million might be more easily swayed than Facebook’s billions of customers who have kept their accounts open through every scandal. Especially if the next big critic of Spotify carries a bigger name — like Taylor.

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