The Mercury News

`SmartLess' podcast heading to Sirius XM

- By Ramishah Maruf and Elizabeth Wagmeister

SiriusXM gained exclusive rights to the hit podcast as part of a larger deal with SmartLess Media, according to an announceme­nt Monday. Sirius will hold the advertisin­g and distributi­on rights, content and events for the podcast and other select shows.

$100 million is a staggering amount for the podcast, which launched in July 2020. Bloomberg first reported the huge price tag. But “SmartLess” has fetched multimilli­ons before: In 2021, Amazon had acquired the exclusive rights in a deal valued between $60 million and $80 million, Bloomberg reported.

The deal keeps the podcast widely available, but brings perks to SiriusXM subscriber­s [--] and could possibly encourage more to join. SiriusXM subscriber­s will get early access to “SmartLess” and other podcasts such as “Just Jack [Amp] Will,” “Bad Dates,” and “Owned.” The majority of the “SmartLess” library will be only be on SiriusXM once the deal commences in the summer.

SiriusXM has about 34 million subscriber­s, according to its October 2023 earnings report. The network also exclusivel­y distribute­s Conan O'Brien's “Conan Needs a Friend” podcast and Crooked Media's “Pod Save America.” The podcasts, which remain free, even to nonSiriusX­M subscriber­s, help create an alternate revenue stream for the satellite radio company.

The “SmartLess” podcast is among the top listened to in the country. Its notable guests have included President Joe Biden, Bradley Cooper, Emma Stone, Greta Gerwig, Idris Elba, Pedro Pascal and Selena Gomez.

Over the past few years, SiriusXM has “doubled down on our commitment to podcasting,” Scott Greenstein, President and Chief Content Officer, SiriusXM said in a release. “With the addition of `SmartLess,' we are strengthen­ing our leadership position in podcasting.”

SiriusXM Podcast Network is a competitor to streaming giants like Spotify and Amazon. Spotify has had to make up for the more than $1 billion it spent on podcasting, much of which went toward deals with celebritie­s to make podcasts that never materializ­ed and acquiring podcast studios that it later shuttered.

 ?? KEVIN WINTER/ANGELA WEISS — AFP/GETTY IMAGES ?? Jason Bateman, Will Arnett and Sean Hayes are taking their popular podcast “SmartLess” to SiriusXM.
KEVIN WINTER/ANGELA WEISS — AFP/GETTY IMAGES Jason Bateman, Will Arnett and Sean Hayes are taking their popular podcast “SmartLess” to SiriusXM.

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