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Q&A with Gen. Wesley Clark about Russia’s war on Ukraine

- Austin Bogues Commentary editor Austin Bogues is a member of USA TODAY’s Editorial Board.

In less than a week, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has prompted internatio­nal outcry and strong sanctions from the United States and European Union.

In an opinion column for USA TODAY last week, retired Gen. Wesley K. Clark, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, Europe, wrote that “NATO must be prepared to recognize the new reality of a more adversaria­l Russia. This will require new force deployment­s, logistics and emergency procedures, and deepening cooperatio­n in the nonmilitar­y spheres.”

USA TODAY Opinion asked Clark this week for his perspectiv­e on what’s happening as Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine unfolds. His conversati­on with Editorial Board member Austin Bogues has been edited for length and clarity:

Q. What is Putin’s next move after it appears his initial efforts have been stymied to seize the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv?

A. He is going to bring in more forces. This far he has used “forward detachment­s” to probe Ukrainian defenses and attempt to coerce the government to surrender. It hasn’t worked. Now he is bringing his main force forward, along with Belorussia­n forces. He will probably intensify his air activity and use heavy artillery strikes.

Q. How will the war come to an end? Is there still a possibilit­y of a diplomatic solution?

A. A diplomatic solution is unlikely. It could end with Kyiv overrun and a Ukrainian government in exile. Or it could end in a Russian withdrawal to face another operation. Or it could end with a Western and United Nations demand that Putin cannot ignore, due to sanctions and internatio­nal pressure.

Q. What does the nuclear deterrence activation Putin issued Sunday mean in practical terms? A. This was a means of pressuring Ukraine in possible negotiatio­ns and also a warning for the West not to intervene.

Q. Is there a chance the Ukrainians could win? What would that look like?

A. The Ukrainians could win if warm, wet weather and poor Russian logistics immobilize the Russian force and they have the means to attack and destroy that force. Ukraine could also win if the West and internatio­nal efforts force Putin to withdraw.

Q. What are the chances the conflict escalates?

A. If Putin wins here, he will go after his next targets, Georgia and the Baltic states. This will bring escalation. At some point, if the fighting in Kyiv intensifies, the U.S. may have to intervene even if it risks escalation.

Q. Will the sanctions issued be effective in stopping Putin?

A. Sanctions might stop Putin eventually but probably not immediatel­y.

“At some point, if the fighting in Kyiv intensifies, the U.S. may have to intervene even if it risks escalation.”

Gen. Wesley Clark Former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, Europe

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