The Record (Troy, NY)

Trump stands by ‘animals’ statement

- By Jill Colvin and Darlene Superville

BETHPAGE, N.Y. » Describing gang violence inflicted by MS-13 members in chilling and gruesome detail, President Donald Trump vowed Wednesday to make “radical” changes to U.S. aid practices by withholdin­g government assistance from countries whose citizens enter the United States illegally.

“We’re going to work out something where every time somebody comes in from a certain country, we’re going to deduct a rather large amount of money from what we give them in aid — if we give them aid at all,” Trump said during a roundtable discussion on MS-13 on New York’s Long Island

attended by federal and local officials.

White House officials did not immediatel­y respond to questions about which countries the president was referencin­g or how far along the plan was — but it’s not the first time he’s made the suggestion.

Trump threatened in February to cut off aid from and slap sanctions on countries that refuse to accept nationals the U. S. tries to deport, saying, “If they don’t take ‘em back, we’ll put sanctions on the countries, we’ll put tariffs on the countries.”

During the roundtable, Trump and officials who support more stringent borders laws defended his references to MS-13 gang members as “animals” as they recounted a litany of hackings, decapitati­ons, bludgeonin­gs and other gruesome crimes that law enforcemen­t authoritie­s blame on the group.

“I called them animals the other day and I was met with rebuke,” Trump said, referencin­g Democratic criticism. He specifical­ly mentioned House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi as saying even gang members are people.

“They’re not people,” Trump said. “These are animals and we have to be very, very tough.”

Pelosi had commented more broadly on Trump’s rhetoric and policies directed at immigrants, including changes the administra­tion wants that could lead to more children being separated from their parents as they cross the border illegally.

“It’s harder and harder for the Democrats,” Trump said, suggesting the party would suffer politicall­y for its harsh reaction to his “animals” remark.

“The other day was actually a great day when they were coming to the defense of MS-13,” he said.

During a similar roundtable last week at the White House, Trump used the word “animals” to describe some people who enter the country illegally, in response to a comment about MS-13. He later said he will continue to use the term when referring to the gang.

Trump’s comments, reported by some news organizati­ons without context, sparked a furious blowback that the White House quickly seized on and used to suggest Democrats were defending members of a gang known for brutal violence.

Harking back to times past, Trump said that when he was growing up nearby, people could leave their doors unlocked and windows open.

“You have gang members now that are so tough people are afraid to go outside,” he said.

But, Trump said: “Our people are tougher than them. That’s the only language they understand. ... The only language they understand is that toughness.”

Trump lamented the restrictio­ns put on officers in their treatment of suspects.

“The restrictio­ns that are put on them are incredible. You’ve got to be nice, you can’t be too tough, you have to be gentle. They can’t touch, they can’t do anything. And they do an incredible job,” he said.

MS-13, or the Mara Salvatruch­a, is believed by federal prosecutor­s to have thousands of members across the U. S., primarily emigrants from Central America. It has a stronghold in Los Angeles, where it emerged in the 1980s as a neighborho­od street gang, but it also has wreaked vio- lence in cities and suburbs across the U. S., including Long Island.

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