The Sun (San Bernardino)

As radio becomes generic, podcasting keeps things local

- Richard Wagoner Columnist Richard Wagoner is a San Pedro freelance columnist. Email rwagoner@socalradio­waves.com

Is it fair to compare podcasting with broadcast radio? In a word, no. The two are totally different animals, with broadcasti­ng by definition attempting to reach a broad audience and the podcast designed to appeal — at least as is usually done currently — to a very narrow, specialize­d audience.

There are exceptions, and sometimes the lines do blur. Ben Shapiro’s radio show heard from 3-5 p.m. on KABC (790 AM)? That’s actually a rebroadcas­t of his podcast you can hear every morning online. And that is but one example.

But in general, as radio has abandoned much of its local focus, and with so many stations not even running public affairs programmin­g at all anymore, podcasting has come in to fill the gap.

You can listen to podcasts produced by Trader Joe’s, talking about products the store carries. Mike Stark and I do a weekly podcast talking about radio, usually promoting this very column. There are podcasts about music, concerts, business … just about anything.

Paul Roberts saw the potential of podcasting years ago. Struck by the fact that Orange County no longer has a local mass appeal radio station, he launched OC Talk Radio in 2010, available at octalkradi­o.biz.

At its launch, it was basically an experiment in a new form of media. Indeed, the term “podcasting” had only been in use for about six years, and podcasts were often far from profession­al. Roberts wanted to change that, and he realized that he could provide — via his network — a voice for Orange County.

He calls it a community radio station, though it is not “on” the radio. Or at least regular radio. But many feel the future of radio is on the internet, and podcasting may drive the move. More on that a little later.

Unlike other podcast distributo­rs, not only does OC Talk Radio stream on demand, but Tuesdays-Fridays the online station carries programmin­g live from 9 a.m.-5 p.m.

Show topics range from business and religion to health and women in tech. And everything in between and around, such as “Impact OC,” hosted by Dawn Kamber, which highlights people, businesses and organizati­ons making a positive impact on the county.

In some ways, it is like the very early days of radio, when programs were sponsored by individual­s or companies trying to promote their ideas or products. You can hear the programs at the website or through such apps and services as iTunes, and you can subscribe so you’re notified when a new show you’re interested in becomes available.

Check it out and tell me what you think.

The next Limbaugh

He’s not really a replacemen­t, as you can’t truly find a new host for “The Rush Limbaugh Show.” But with stations facing a hole in programmin­g after Limbaugh’s death last month, and his former distributo­r lacking a clear plan moving forward, the rush is on, so to speak, to find programmin­g that will fill the void.

With that in mind, podcaster and Fox News contributo­r Dan Bongino, whose podcast has been carried on KABC (790 AM) from 5-6 p.m. weekdays, has been selected to host a show in Limbaugh’s time slot of 9 a.m.-noon weekdays.

To be clear, the program is not a replacemen­t for Limbaugh’s. It’s actually a competing show designed to strike while opportunit­y is knocking. It will launch Wednesday and be carried in a handful of markets, including Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Dallas and Washington, D.C.

In Los Angeles, it’s a good bet that it will be carried on KABC, seeing that the show is being distribute­d by Westwood One … which is owned by Cumulus Media, the company that owns KABC.

In the meantime, Limbaugh’s show is still airing with guest hosts and “best of” recordings. This will continue while distributo­r Premiere Networks figures out a plan.

Online rocks

I mentioned earlier that some people think online radio may just be the future of radio. And they may be right. Considerin­g that it is almost impossible to find new rock music on the local airwaves, I’ve been using my iPhone and my HomePod to listen to various stations, such as Rock 108 out of Waterloo, Iowa. It’s an Active Rock station not limited to a particular genre, and to my ears quite good. I’ve mentioned this station before … it is among my favorites. I seem to always catch the “Hard Drive XL” show as I walk at night, which I find well worth the listen. I’m not sure how they do it, but ads heard in the stream include at least one local business based in Torrance.

Anyway, as apps and smart speakers get easier and easier to use, it is very possible that radio will indeed make its way onto the internet. And not just as a repeat of the broadcast radio signal. Is it possible that upcoming technologi­es will allow internet radio to reach the same potential audience as a standard broadcast? Meaning millions of potential listeners, not just a few thousand, as currently thought?

I posed that question to master radio and audio engineer Greg Ogonowski, said to be the guy who could make an AM signal sound as good as FM, and the man behind the fantastic app Streams HiFi Audio, perhaps the bestsoundi­ng streaming audio app in existence. He said it is indeed possible, And not in the future … now. New programs and standards are already in place that would allow this, and I’ll have full details in a future column.

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