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Standing out in a crowd

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In Iowa, 2020 candidates play up their contrasts with Joe Biden.

with a vengeance — so that’s why I’ve spoken out,” Dean told the Judiciary Committee.

But committee Republican­s repeatedly mocked Democrats for bringing in Dean — a star witness from nearly a half century ago who has a CNN contract — and several other former U.S. attorneys who have television deals and have criticized Trump. None was involved in Mueller’s investigat­ion.

“Here we sit today in a hearing with the ghost of Christmas past because the chairman of the committee has gone to the speaker of the House and sought permission to open an impeachmen­t inquiry and she said no,” said Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who asked Dean how much he earned in his CNN contract; Dean wouldn’t say.

Trump, in brief remarks at the White House, dismissed both Dean, whom he had called a “sleazebag” in a tweet, and the notion of impeachmen­t.

Dean has “been a loser for many years,” the president said. “When you look at past impeachmen­ts, whether it was President Clinton, or I guess President Nixon never got there — he left. I don’t leave. Big difference.”

Privately, several Democrats said they agreed with the GOP’s harsh assessment, wondering why Dean was called in the first place. The lawmakers and aides spoke on the condition of anonymity to freely discuss private conversati­ons.

The hearing underscore­d the problems Democrats face in trying to draw attention to Mueller’s findings as Trump repeatedly blocks his former White House aides from testifying and cooperatin­g with requests for documents. Unlike Dean, who turned on Nixon and testified in the 1970s, Trump’s former White House counsel Donald McGahn has refused to appear because the White House instructed him not to testify.

Mueller himself has also refused so far to agree to a date to appear publicly, privately expressing worries about being used politicall­y by partisans on both sides. Consequent­ly, Democrats have struggled to create a blockbuste­r moment like the one that made Dean famous and ultimately brought down a president.

Absent a compelling witness, Democrats who favor impeachmen­t have found it difficult to move public sentiment — and convince a reluctant Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who has said the House will not launch impeachmen­t proceeding­s unless Americans support the move.

While an increasing number of Democratic lawmakers and 2020 presidenti­al hopefuls are calling for impeachmen­t, a majority of the general public still does not support it.

A recent CNN poll released the last week of May found that 41 percent of the public supports proceeding­s while 54 percent does not. Another Fox poll from May similarly found 42 percent supporting and 50 percent opposed. A mid-May Monmouth poll even found that public sentiment was going the opposite way, with 39 percent supporting impeachmen­t, a dip from March when the same study found 42 percent did.

Further underminin­g the push for impeachmen­t was the Justice Department’s deal with congressio­nal investigat­ors. Under the agreement, the Judiciary Committee will have access to interview notes, firsthand accounts and other evidence, according to Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.).

It was unclear whether the material related to whether the president obstructed the Mueller inquiry would provide new details that could sway public opinion and lawmakers skeptical about an impeachmen­t proceeding that probably would end with Trump’s acquittal in the Republican-led Senate.

Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), a member of the committee, said lawmakers had not been told precisely which materials the department was making available, but he he did not expect key records, including grand jury testimony, to be included.

In reaching the deal, Nadler announced that he would not move to hold Barr in criminal contempt of Congress. However, the House is scheduled to vote Tuesday to authorize the Judiciary Committee to take Barr to civil court to enforce a subpoena for the underlying documents should they prove insufficie­nt to their investigat­ions. The vote will also allow the House to sue McGahn to try to force him to testify.

In his opening remarks, Dean said the last time he testified before the House Judiciary Committee was July 11, 1974, nearly 45 years ago. Seven of the committee’s 41 members weren’t even born at that time, including Gaetz, who told Dean, “you sit before us here with no knowledge of a single fact of the Mueller report on a hearing entitled ‘Lessons of the Mueller Report.’”

Committee Democrats repeatedly cited sections of the Mueller report and the former special counsel’s explanatio­n that his office could not consider whether to charge Trump with a crime because of a long-standing Justice Department opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted. Mueller, in public remarks May 29, repeated a line in his report explaining that his team would have exonerated Trump of obstructio­n if it could have.

Democrats asked Dean about the significan­ce of Trump calling McGahn and requesting he find a way to oust Mueller, or the presisaid dent leaning on Corey Lewandowsk­i to pressure then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to rein in the special counsel.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (DTex.), for instance, asked Dean why McGahn would have been so “perturbed” by Trump’s weekend call to ask McGahn to get rid of Mueller.

“He was very aware that firing the special counsel would be equivalent to the Nixon Saturday Night Massacre,” Dean said, later describing the October 1973 series of events in which the top two Justice Department officials resigned rather than follow Nixon’s orders to fire special prosecutor Archibald Cox. “And so he stepped away from it and didn’t want any part of it.”

Democrats on the committee have been trying to highlight the findings of the 448-page, redacted report, aware that most Americans have not read the document and are unfamiliar with the findings.

That was the main purpose for bringing in Dean, who discussed similariti­es he saw between the two presidents, particular­ly on the matter of pardons and whether they were used to obstruct justice.

“In many ways, the Mueller report is to President Trump what the so-called Watergate road map . . . was to President Richard Nixon,” said Dean, whose congressio­nal testimony in 1973 ultimately led to Nixon’s resignatio­n. “Special counsel Mueller has provided this committee with a road map.”

House Republican­s tried to discredit Dean as a witness, questionin­g his role in the Watergate scandal knowing that Dean pleaded guilty to obstructin­g justice, later was disbarred and was imprisoned for four months.

 ?? ANDREW HARNIK/ASSOCIATED PRESS ?? John W. Dean III appears Monday before the House Judiciary Committee to discuss the Mueller report and the perceived parallels between President Trump and Dean’s former boss, Richard M. Nixon.
ANDREW HARNIK/ASSOCIATED PRESS John W. Dean III appears Monday before the House Judiciary Committee to discuss the Mueller report and the perceived parallels between President Trump and Dean’s former boss, Richard M. Nixon.

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