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On ‘ Confession­s,’ serious issues also are in the mix

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Ritchie and the kids. There are more serious moments as well, with Madonna re ( ecting on how her life and views have evolved.

“ It’s like me keeping a journal, but it’s visual,” says Madonna, whose recent projects have included a 4 fth children’s book, Lotsa de Casha, and a kiddie clothing line inspired by the fashion- conscious and “very opinionate­d” Lourdes. “ But I never intended ( Secret) to come out at the same time as my

new record. But it

took me twice as

long to edit as I had

expected.”

Secret does share

with Confession­s an unabashedl­y personal tone. Madonna has described the latter as an unapologet­ic dance album “ about having a good time straight through and non- stop.” Dig beneath the buoyant beats and clubfriend­ly, neo-disco arrangemen­ts, though, and you’ll 4 nd wistful undercurre­nts in both the music and lyrics.

“ That’swhy I called it Confession­s on a Dance

Floor,” Madonna explains. “ Most people equate dance music with being ( uffy and super 4 cial; it’s just about getting up and having fun. That’s 4 ne, but I can’t write 12 songs about nothing. My feelings or my point of view inevitably sneak in.”

Like 1998’ s Ray of Light, the 4 rst album Madonna released after becoming a mother, Confession­s juggles state-of- the- art production — Madonna co- wrote and produced the songswith Stuart Price, musical director for her past two tours, with additional help from American Life producer Mirwais Ahmadzai ( also Madonna’s collaborat­or on 2000’ s Music) and others — with age-old spiritual questions, albeit 4 ltered through a modern star’s perspectiv­e. “ Should I carry on? Will it matter when I’m gone?” she asks on the introspect­ive How High.

“ I’m constantly trying to 4 gure out what my place in the world is,” she says. “ That search was obviously instigated by the birth of my daughter. In my 4 lm, I talk about how I woke up one day and thought, ‘ my God, I’m about to have a baby; how am I going to teach my child what the meaning of life is when I don’t know myself?’ I thought, ‘ if she asks me why she’s here and who is God or why are people suffering,’ I want to have answers. And I want to ask those questions, too.” “I’m a city girl”: Madonna and her British husband, director Guy Ritchie, live in London during the school year for Lourdes, 9, and Rocco, 5.

One song, the Middle Eastern( avored Isaac, has already generated controvers­y in the print press and on the Internet. “ Jewish mystics to Madonna: Lay off our sage!,” screamed one headline, a reference to certain Israeli rabbis’ outrage over the singer’s supposed decision to allude to that movement’s founder, 16th-century mystic Isaac Luria.

ut Madonna claims Isaac was actually named after Yitzhak Sinwani, a Yemeni singerwho appears on the track. “ The album isn’t even out, so how could Jewish scholars in Israel know what my song is about? I don’t know enough about Isaac Luria to write a song, though I’ve learned a bit in my studies. He was a catalyst for ( Kaballah).

“ But I’ve never heard that it’s blasphemou­s for anyone to mention the names of catalysts. That’s just a religious organizati­on claiming ownership of something. ‘ This is our informatio­n; you’re not Jewish and you can’t know about it,’ or, ‘ You’re female and you can’t know about it.’ That’s religious thinking for you.”

Madonna, whose Catholic upbringing also continues to inform her work, is keen to distinguis­h such thinking from the kind of re( ection that drew her to the Kaballah. “ I like to draw a line between religion and spirituali­ty. For me, the idea of God, or the idea of spirit, has nothing to do with religion. Religion is about separating people, and I don’t think that was ever the Creator’s intention. That’s just people’s need to belong to a group and feel good about themselves.

“ Just about every war that’s ever been started has been started in the name of God. It’s, ‘ I belong to this group; my group’s better than your group, so if you’re not in this group, we’re going to kill you.’ For me, religious thinking is synonymous with tribalism. You’re not thinking for yourself; you’re doing things because that’s what somebody else did, or that’s how your family taught you think.”

With her own family, Madonna says, she encourages a more inclusive approach to spiritual education. “ Because I study Kaballah, my children are exposed to it. We go to a Torah reading every Saturday morning, which may appear Jewish to many people, but it’s not. And my daughter goes to spirituali­tyforkids classes. But it’s non-denominati­onal; there are kids who are Muslims, Jews, Christians, atheists, whatever.”

Lourdes and Rocco also seem to have absorbed their mother’s love of dance, though with very different results. Madonna’s daughter has been taking ballet lessons since she was 4. “ I didn’t start till I was 12, which in the world of ballet is late, and I moved from ballet into modern and jazz. ( Lourdes) has more of a ballerina’s body, with these beautiful ballerina’s feet. She’s better suited to it.

“ No lessons for my son, though. His style is sort of street. If I ask him to dance for me, he never will, but if there’s music on in the playroom, he’ll dance by himself. I have to sneak up on him. He loves R&B and hip- hop, and he dances that way. It’s very funny. I don’t know where he got it from — I mean, he goes to the Lycee ( Francais School) in London. But I think things like dancing, and what you’re drawn to musically, are instinctua­l.”

During the school year, Madonna, her children and Ritchie are based in London. “ We go to the country house on weekends, or in the summer,” she says. “ I’m a city girl. If I hadn’t married Guy, I’m sure I never would have grown to appreciate the beauty of the countrysid­e. But there’s an idyllic peacefulne­ss there that you couldn’t 4 nd anywhere else. Now I think I can tolerate being in the city because I have a place to escape to, where I can leave the door open and my children can run outside. It’s the one place I can feel like everybody else.”

Well, almost like everybody else. Madonna suggests that the media has blown reports of her not allowing Lourdes and Rocco to watch television out of proportion. “ I was raised without television,” she points out. “ They watch 4 lms, and my daughter always has her nose in a book. I don’t get the sense that they feel deprived. I don’t know why that’s shocking to people.”

Pressed further, though, Madonna admits she is concerned about the impact too much contempora­ry to behave and pop culture could have on her offspring in particular. “ TV is horrifying,” she says. “ Everything is so celebrity-obsessed, and I’m a celebrity. Why confuse my children with that?”

As things stand, of course, Madonna’s kids “get photograph­ed everywhere they go. There are so many more paparazzi now. Because of the Internet, there are all these new agencies. It’s created a whole new line of work for people, where you’ve got to follow people to the end of the earth and climb fences. There are even television shows that show it. ”

Such comments may seem ironic coming from someone whose rise and continuing fame have been credited at least in part to masterful marketing, and who is widely considered the 4rst superstar made by, of and for the video age. And Madonna, who has survived a few critically panned and commercial­ly disappoint­ing projects in recent years, doesn’twant to bite the hand that has fed her.

“ As you go on making records, everyone keeps predicting your demise,” she says. “ It almost seems like they want you to fail. You have to 4 nd a way to be creative and have the freedom to do what you want to do, while also being aware of what the market demands and what people like. It’s a 4 ne line to walk, and there’s a lot of competitio­n.”

Certainly, Madonna’s imitators and inheritors are legion these days, from teen upstarts to Britney Spears to 36- year-old Gwen Stefani, whose solo album featured virtual homages to her obvious idol. “ She ripped me off, so we mutually agreed that I could rip her off,” Madonna quips of Stefani. “ We work with a lot of the same people. She married a Brit, she’s got blond hair and she likes fashion. But I don’t mind. I think she’s very sweet and really talented.”

Besides, Madonna still has a few role models of her own. She continues to feel a strong connection to the Mexican painter Frida Kahlo. “ Her work was very confession­al, and told you a lot about what was going on in her life. But you never knew exactly what was true and what was false and what she was overdramat­izing. She was creating a myth about herself. But she used it as an educationa­l tool for herself and, I think, for other people.

“ That’s how I think of my work. I do self- portraits. People put me into all different categories: I’m a material girl, a sex goddess, a mother, spiritual. But I love contradict­ion. There’s always a mystery, always a whole other life going on.”

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By Pascal Le Segretain, Getty Images

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