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Arnett recalls ‘ crazy’ poker with Hayes, Black

- Patrick Ryan

What it’s like hanging out with three of TV’s funniest guys?

Look no further than “SmartLess: On the Road,” a six- episode docuseries ( now streaming on Max) featuring Sean Hayes (“Will & Grace”), Will Arnett and Jason Bateman (“Arrested Developmen­t”). The project follows the trio on tour for a series of live shows in support of “SmartLess,” the podcast they started in 2020. Cameras capture the friends as they riff about toilet trips, counting calories and dramatic departures such as Bateman’s Netflix series, “Ozark.”

But there are also more emotional conversati­ons, as Bateman, 54, and Arnett, 53, talk about their respective journeys with sobriety. Hayes, 52, also discusses his experience coming out as gay and growing up in a single- parent home after his dad walked out.

They talk to USA TODAY about the podcast, friendship and more:

Question: It’s been 25 years since you met. What were your first impression­s?

Will Arnett: I think they were impressed by me. At first glance, they were both like, “Whoa!”

Jason Bateman: “There are starving cameras all over the world. How do we get him in front of them?”

Arnett: Truth be told, the moment I met both these guys, I felt an affinity for them. We laughed and got along really well, instantane­ously.

You all used to play poker with Jack Black. What were those games like?

Arnett: I brought Sean, and I remember his first night. If you’ve ever gambled with Sean, it’s crazy.

Sean Hayes: I showed up with briefcases. I didn’t really know how to play.

Arnett: From the first hand, he’s just like, “I’m all in.” He won big the first night, and then at 10: 30 p. m., he was like, “Alright, bye guys. I’m gonna take off; I’m tired.” And he already had everybody’s money. Everyone was just like, “No, no, no. You don’t just come take all the money and leave.”

You just released your 150th episode of the “SmartLess” podcast. How has it evolved since its inception?

Hayes: One of the greatest things is that it hasn’t evolved at all. But that’s the secret sauce, right?

Arnett: We’ve learned very little! We don’t really overthink it too much. The way we record each episode is that only one person knows the guest, so there’s no prep. And we’ve kept that loose approach in the way we look at the podcast itself. We joke about being bad interviewe­rs. At no point do we go, “How could we get better?”

You’ve had some very impressive guests like President Joe Biden and Steven Spielberg. Who’s still on your bucket list?

Bateman: The best interviewe­r in the world currently is Howard Stern. We’ve all had a chance to meet him socially, but it’s another thing to get him on a talk show. He just rarely, rarely does it, unless you’re David Letterman. So that would be a white whale, probably.

The three of you get very candid with each other in this docuseries. Did going on tour bring you closer?

Bateman: I think that’s always there. We love each other so much. I feel like I’m my best self when I’m with them. I’m more parts of myself than I am with most people, aside from my family. I don’t have to be in a certain mood to want to hang out with them. So the opportunit­y to talk openly and honestly – and not comedicall­y – we don’t even really have to think about it.

Hayes: We’re also at an age where I’m like, “This is how I feel. I’m mad. I’m happy. This upsets me. That’s hilarious.” Or whatever! I’m too tired and old to edit with these guys.

Will, there’s a moment in this series where your son, Archie ( 14), tries to act “cool” around you and his friend. Are your kids impressed by any of your projects?

Arnett: No, not one. When they were little, certainly, the kids loved all the “Lego” movies. There’s that thing where you want your kids to be like, “Oh, my God, what you did was so cool!” But the truth is, we’re just their parents, like everybody else’s parents. When I came home, I wasn’t really interested in what my dad was doing.

Hayes: I was! ( Laughs.) Bateman: Aw, Sean. Just wondering which state he’s driving through at the time.

Hayes: Or his address.

Sean, congratula­tions on your Tony nomination for “Good Night Oscar.” ( He plays pianist Oscar Levant.)

Arnett: He just won the Outer Critics Circle Award ( for outstandin­g lead performer in a Broadway play).

Hayes: Thank you. The whole country is talking about it.

Arnett: Which country? Hayes: No, more than the nomination, the greatest gift was having these guys and a bunch of my other friends there ( on opening night). It meant the world to me on such a deep level.

Bateman: It was incredible for us to see him do his thing. It’s a total transforma­tion that he pulls off. Will and I were bawling.

Arnett: Jason turned to me at the end of the show, tears in his eyes, and says, “Sean ruined the podcast.” Because he was so good!

Bateman: We can’t beat up on him anymore! The dynamic’s done.

At the end of the docuseries, you all joke about getting friendship tattoos. Is that still on the table?

Hayes: It’s the last thing Jason wants to do, but I was serious!

Bateman: Do we have a logo or something we can consider? Let’s just get each other’s names.

Hayes: The whole cast of “Lord of the Rings” got tattoos together. Let’s just get the same tattoos that they did.

 ?? PROVIDED BY MAX ?? Jason Bateman, from left, Sean Hayes and Will Arnett in “SmartLess: On the Road.”
PROVIDED BY MAX Jason Bateman, from left, Sean Hayes and Will Arnett in “SmartLess: On the Road.”

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