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Changes bubble up as ABC’s ‘Shark Tank’ swims forward

The set in a Vegas bubble and the tone of the entreprene­urs’ pitches are different.

- Bill Keveney

We’ve seen bubbles in shark tanks. Soon, we’ll see “Shark Tank” in a bubble.

Mark Cuban and Barbara Corcoran, shark investors on the popular ABC entreprene­urial competitio­n, spoke to USA TODAY separately about adjusting to business (not) as usual in the COVID-19 era, from shooting episodes in a quarantine­d Las Vegas bubble to planning for an Emmys night with no in-person ceremony. Season 12 of the unscripted series premieres Oct. 16 (8 EDT/PDT).

Real estate executive Corcoran, Dallas Mavericks owner Cuban and fellow sharks Lori Greiner, Robert Herjavec, Daymond John and Kevin O’Leary are nominated for reality/competitio­n host, with the series going for its fifth win as structured reality program during the Creative Arts Emmys (FXX, Sept. 19, 8 EDT/5 PDT), one night before Jimmy Kimmel hosts the Primetime Emmys on ABC (8 EDT/5 PDT).

Corcoran and Cuban open up about how the pandemic has affected their Emmy plans, filming of the show and “Shark Tank” entreprene­urs:

Question: With no glitzy Los Angeles gathering this year, how will you celebrate Emmy night?

Barbara Corcoran: I’m going to have (a party) at home on my terrace (overlookin­g Central Park) in New York. The invitation­s are already out. In the pandemic,

“I’m going to have a big red carpet from my front door to my terrace. We are going to do the Emmys just as good as if we were in Hollywood.” Barbara Corcoran

we are limited to 20 people in my home. Everybody’s coming in formal attire. Everybody will be 6 feet apart. I have a fabulous new dress, bright yellow with little rhinestone­s. I’m going to have a big red carpet from my front door to my terrace. We are going to do the Emmys just as good as if we were in Hollywood.

Mark Cuban: I’m going to sit here at home with my family (wearing) a Tshirt and shorts and I’m going to scream at the TV.

Q: What was filming in a quarantine bubble like?

Cuban: It was very, very, very strict. We had to quarantine for several days when we got there. We couldn’t leave our rooms. It was analogous to what the NBA was doing, only stricter. With the NBA, they could walk outside, go fishing. There were little patios we could go out on, but no walking around outside. The entreprene­urs had to quarantine for

“People want good news. They want to know that in the midst of this there are positive stories, people fighting through, businesses breaking through.” Mark Cuban an extended period in order to be able to present to us. But it was worth it.

Corcoran: The first concern was health. We were tested all the time. No one tested positive. Everyone was so secure and safe there. We had plenty of space. The area we shot in was the size of eight airport hangars.

Q: What was different on set? Cuban: With the social distancing, we couldn’t hug the entreprene­urs after we did a deal with them. The space between the sharks was much wider. Instead of just being a straight line of the five of us, it’s curved a little bit around the entreprene­urs.

Corcoran: Even though we were spread 15 feet apart, it was pretty remarkable how all of it came together and felt so normal. On the regular show, we can sometimes have a hard time hearing each other, if you’re on one end and Mark is talking and then Robert talks over him on the far end. Because of the (extra) distance, we all had miniature microphone­s. So, as people spoke, they were speaking right to you. It made the job much easier.

Q: Did the pandemic influence the show’s vibe?

Corcoran: It was far more intense, not because of the health issues and the threat of getting sick, but because the entreprene­urs that came to set were hungrier than I’ve ever seen in my life. Part of it was because they already came through a terrible time, the pandemic. Usually, you get the feeling the entreprene­urs want to get an investment as an option. This time it was so different, like a last chance. Very often, they were on the last leg of their business. It added such an intensity to every pitch.

Cuban: There were products that were pandemic-related. We had companies where the pandemic had really torn them apart from a business perspectiv­e.

Q: With so many businesses suffering, how are previous “Shark Tank” entreprene­urs doing?

Cuban: Out of the 150 “Shark Tank” deals I’ve done, there were probably 15 that have really been hit hard in a negative fashion, where they had a retail component or they weren’t as strong online as they needed to be. We really had to work with them, but in all but maybe one or two cases, the entreprene­urs have really stepped up and recognized they had to accelerate digital or change the marketing, change how they approach customers. In some cases, the pandemic has helped them. I’ve always pushed my companies to be strong digitally and really agile and persistent.

Corcoran: Probably a quarter of them have gone out of business. And roughly a quarter are almost twice as strong as when they went in. The entreprene­urs that went under, I couldn’t move them off first base. The entreprene­urs that did so well hit the floor running.

One of my most successful companies is Comfy, (which is) an oversized sweatshirt blanket. I think 15% of sales were online, 85% in retail stores. I thought they would go out of business, but they immediatel­y started selling online. Overnight, their sales dropped by 80%, but within one month they were up by 80%. The pandemic helped because people were spending so much time at home and they want to be comfortabl­e. They started ordering more Comfys to snuggle up on their couch and watch TV.

Q: Was it tough to have the pandemic influence the show, since so many people watch TV for escapism?

Cuban: People want good news. They want to know that in the midst of this there are positive stories, people fighting through, businesses breaking through. They want to know that if this continues longer than expected that there is hope. There’s excitement that there are going to be new kinds of businesses started. If we can motivate people to start businesses, particular­ly after the negative economic impact, that’s a beautiful thing.

 ?? DAN MACMEDAN/USA TODAY ?? The “Shark Tank” set, with Mark Cuban, Barbara Corcoran, adapted to coronaviru­s restrictio­ns, with sharks spaced around the entreprene­urs, as compared with their usual seating, shown in 2019.
DAN MACMEDAN/USA TODAY The “Shark Tank” set, with Mark Cuban, Barbara Corcoran, adapted to coronaviru­s restrictio­ns, with sharks spaced around the entreprene­urs, as compared with their usual seating, shown in 2019.

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