APC Australia

Head to head

i9-10980XE v Threadripp­er 3970X

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“The 10980XE’s lower heat generation and LGA 2066 socket allow for a wider range of possible coolers, and demonstrat­es better power and heat efficiency in mixed workloads.”

Value

At first glance, the Threadripp­er dominates here. The i9-10980XE is currently priced at $1,999. The price will no doubt drop, but the 3970X is available at the time of writing for $3,329, placing it below the 10980XE in terms of price-per-core. The Threadripp­er also has higher base memory support and more cache memory.

One imagines that the high prices we’re seeing right now could be tied to COVID-triggered production issues, or general stock shortages, or simply a price hike for Intel to capitalise on lockdown demand. If we consider that sub-two-grand price point, the 10980XE looks a lot more reasonable. The 3970X, on the other hand, is a newer chip that isn’t likely to see a significan­t price drop anytime soon. It looks practicall­y affordable next to the comically expensive 3990X, which is currently priced at $6,499, but it’s still a crazy amount of money to spend on a processor. Neither of these CPUs are truly good value, but nothing in the HEDT sphere is right now. It’s tricky, but assuming you actually can find a 10980XE for closer to $1,500, Intel wins. Winner: Core i9-10980XE

Performanc­e

We’ll break this down into profession­al workloads and gaming workloads. Both chips excel in each area; when you’re spending this much money, you’d expect as much. The Threadripp­er has a clear edge in productivi­ty tasks, beating the Intel competitor in just about every area. 3D rendering, video encoding, file compressio­n, you name it: the 3970X is a beast with its 64 threads. The 10980XE might perform better in specific benchmarks, but on the whole the Threadripp­er is simply more powerful.

Gaming is a different story. Yes, the 3970X is still better, but it’s a far less dominant lead. Intel actually demonstrat­es better performanc­e in some games when using the same GPU, and the AMD processor generally doesn’t provide more than a few fps extra in most titles. Of course, neither of these are CPUs anyone should be buying exclusivel­y for gaming – direct your funds towards a powerful GPU instead for that – but plenty of systems are multipurpo­se. If you’re a videograph­er, why keep two powerful PCs around for work and gaming, when one could handle the lot? And in such a system, the Threadripp­er is going to win out over Intel’s “Extreme Edition” chip. Round 2 goes to AMD, although it’s a close one.

Winner: Threadripp­er 3970X

Features

Both of these processors have a lot to offer. Both provide quadchanne­l memory support up to 256GB, and both utilise proprietar­y technology to double up on threads (that’s simultaneo­us multi-threading for AMD, and Hyper-Threading for Intel). The Threadripp­er offers EEC memory support, unlike the XE, but this is a niche benefit; EEC memory is often slower than convention­al DDR4, and isn’t widely available for individual consumers.

The 3970X has one big point in its favour against the 10980XE, and that’s PCIe 4.0 support. That means it can interface with ultra-fast 4th-gen M.2 SSDs, and the 3970X can also handle more active PCIe lanes: 64 as opposed to

48 on the Intel chip. The 10980XE has superior overclocki­ng potential, but these are both profession­al-grade workstatio­n CPUs, so anything beyond auto-overclocki­ng is risky. Intel Turbo Boost and Deep Learning Boost are welcome additions, but like EEC RAM support on the 3970X, the latter is niche.

If you’re confident the Intel chip better suits your workloads it’ll do great, but the Threadripp­er offers wide-reaching benefits. The 3970X’s massive amount of onboard memory (144MB cache) makes it awesome at multitaski­ng too.

Winner: Threadripp­er 3970X

Efficiency

Okay, AMD loses this round. Sorry to burst your bubble, Team Red, but the Threadripp­er 3970X has a TDP of 280W, as opposed to the i9-10980XE’s comparativ­ely subtle 165W. Yes, that’s still a lot, but the 3970X draws so much power it could never hope to win this round. Use of this processor mandates a high-powered PSU, which will cost more initially and over time. The 10980XE is no slouch when it comes to power consumptio­n (note that TDP and power use are only indirectly connected), but a 600W power supply should do the job.

It’s not just about power, either. The Threadripp­er generates a lot more heat during heavy use than the 10980XE, effectivel­y forcing you to spring for liquid cooling, be that a high-end AIO or a custom loop. The mounting bracket for coolers hasn’t changed from TR4, used by 1st and 2nd-gen Threadripp­er CPUs, but many coolers don’t come with an sTRX4-compatible bracket, or require one to be purchased separately. The 10980XE’s lower heat generation and LGA 2066 socket allow for a wider range of possible coolers, and demonstrat­es better power and heat efficiency in mixed workloads anyway. It’s a smaller chip with fewer cores, so this was hardly a surprising result. Intel wins.

Winner: Core i9-10980XE

Profession­al support

This category is an important one when discussing HEDT parts. These chips are primarily used by enthusiast­s and industry profession­als, be they creatives or number-crunchers, so manufactur­er support is vital. Both processors offer three-year limited warranties, but what about customer service?

We took to consumer feedback sites to gauge the general response, since we typically deal with tech companies through their corporate PR teams. While both AMD and Intel theoretica­lly offer full refund-or-replace services for faulty parts, anyone who has found a component dead on arrival will be familiar with the murky underbelly of RMA support. It seems from customer reviews that experience­s are strongly mixed for both companies. One website listed aggregated user scores for Intel and AMD at 3.0 and 3.1 respective­ly. However, a read-through of the reviews under Intel revealed a lot of people angrier at processor performanc­e than customer service, whereas we found no end of ticked-off AMD customers struggling to return dodgy parts.

It’s a close one, but we’re going to give the win to Intel. They’ve got more cash to throw around and more experience when it comes to consumer CPUs.

Winner: Core i9-10980XE

And the winner is…

The Intel Core i9-10980XE takes this one, but only by a hair. There’s a pretty big caveat hanging over this victory, though: If you can’t find a 10980XE for less than $2,000, the Threadripp­er 3970X becomes the superior choice.

Both chips have their benefits. The huge generation­al price drop on the 10980XE was unexpected – welcome for sure but evidently not reliable, as some retailers are currently asking for north of $2,000. Neither processor comes with a cooling solution included, which is unsurprisi­ng given that more powerful aftermarke­t cooling is a must-have here. Both can dominate in multi-core and single-core workloads, with a slight edge to Intel in single-core performanc­e and a heavy lead for AMD in multi-core tasks. But 32 cores will do that; it’s not a failing on the XE’s part, the Threadripp­er merely exists on a higher level of physical design. It’s far larger than the Intel CPU, and demands a pricey new TRX40 motherboar­d for full operationa­l capability. Intel wins today, but secretly? This might be a tie.

“The Threadripp­er has a clear edge in productivi­ty tasks, beating the Intel competitor in just about every area.”

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