The Phnom Penh Post

Putting a value on social impact

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While that depends on what individual investors are looking for, I would expect most of it to be done through private equity. That is for several reasons.

First of all, it is easier and because private equity funds involve getting shares of a company. Usually that is higher value than debt financing. Plus, I don’t think Cambodian companies or the economy is ready for private sector debt financing.

First off the company has to be working and profitable. Basically we need to make sure there are some commercial returns to the social impact investment. While we can’t guarantee profits, we will make some profit projection­s for our investors.

That is very difficult because there are different projects that will have different measuremen­ts, but still there is no unified measuremen­t that can put an economic value on potential investment returns. The problem is that there are just too many different definition­s to measure a project. So what we need to do is develop more consistent standards that the UN can apply to different investment classifica­tions. The goal is impact first and profit second.

Well, it is good for investors that want to make a difference. And it is also good to have businesses that are not just focused on capitalist­ic exploitati­on. What we need is to have capitalism shift toward more long-term solutions.

It hasn’t yet because there are still a lot of challenges in bridging the gap between investors and social impact projects. What the fund really needs to address is creating an objective standard.

Sure, investment­s into the environmen­t can be good because they are good for the environmen­t, but how do you actually value them economical­ly?

We need to be able to quantify the impact. You can talk about social returns, but that is often a very limited measuremen­t.

Generally speaking, and because I represent Hong Kong investors, we have to consider China’s One Belt, One Road policy that identifies Cambodia and ASEAN countries as instrument­al to its success. We will be largely focused on real estate developmen­t programs, but we are not limited to that.

The reason why the Chinese like real estate and infrastruc­ture investment­s is because the investment­s are a lot higher and are generally an easier sell. But we can focus on tech and youth entreprene­urship, and possibly package a bunch of startups or enterprise­s into one product that will suit the risk appetite of the investor.

For risk, we have to take in a lot of factors. One of them is largely the political risks. That is something that is really sensitive for investors. Compared to other developing countries, Cambodia has a really uncertain environmen­t.

I am not saying it is too risky. But generally speaking, we still prefer democratic societies. And if they are not, we have to see a lot of other factors that would support stability.

What Cambodia needs to do is to show investors that it is stable. We need some sort of confirmati­on. This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

 ?? HENG CHIVOAN ?? Jenny Chow, an advisor to the United Nations Social Impact Fund, speaks in Phnom Penh last week.
HENG CHIVOAN Jenny Chow, an advisor to the United Nations Social Impact Fund, speaks in Phnom Penh last week.

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