The Phnom Penh Post

Kelly’s interview avoids disaster

- Michael Paulson

MEGYN Kelly’s interview on Sunday night with the bellicose conspiracy theorist Alex Jones was cetainly dreaded, but, in execution, it was far from dreadful. Kelly, who has many miles to go before she finds her footing as a big-time newsmagazi­ne anchor, can and has done worse.

To the slightest relief of decent people everywhere – some who may have been watching NBC’s Sunday Night With Megyn Kelly against their better nature – the host was tougher on Jones than she was with Vladimir Putin a couple weeks ago. She challenged Jones, whose Infowars radio show and multimedia platform draws millions of followers, on some of his wildest and most dangerous assertions, including his statements that the 2012 massacre of 20 children and six adults at a Newtown, Connecticu­t, elementary school was an elaborate hoax.

When Jones tried to change the subject to foreign wars, Kelly interrupte­d him: “That’s a dodge.”

When he kept going, she interrupte­d him again: “That doesn’t excuse what you said and did about Newtown – you know it.”

Earlier on Sunday afternoon, Jones released a video expressing Father’s Day condolence­s to Newtown parents who lost their children in the shooting, seeming to indicate that he at least believed in their grief (if not “mainstream media” accounts of the shooting that caused it), but more likely just trying to steal some attention away from the Sunday Night piece.

Unsettling as it may be to have aired it at all, Kelly’s 20minute segment on Jones and his influence (his fans include President Donald Trump) seemed to have benefited greatly from the precritici­sm and brouhaha that swirled around it last week (one NBCowned station declined to air it; an advertiser backed out), assuring that Kelly and her producers delivered a tightly edited, firmly reported, nononsense story about someone who tells dangerous lies. Kelly’s instincts here aren’t wrong: Viewers who don’t want to hear a single word from Jones need to know more about him and the people who believe him.

Rather than let Jones run away with it, Sunday Night let him show himself to be an impertinen­t, ill-informed, foulmouthe­d, possibly deranged egomaniac with a forehead constantly beaded in sweat. It showed viewers how Infowars grew and sustains itself by peddling right-wing merchandis­e and Jones-endorsed dietary supplement­s. It looked briefly back at Jones’s early days as just another cableacces­s kook in Austin, Texas, and revealed the flimsy, almost non-existent definition of “research” (articles he and his staff find online) that sets the Infowars agenda.

“If you just look at an article and discuss it, then it’s garbage in, garbage out, right?” Kelly asked him. “If you haven’t ascertaine­d the veracity of that article, and it’s all BS and you spend two hours talking about it, then it’s all just misinforma­tion. I’m just trying to figure out what the vetting process is–”

“We all get it, Hillary was 15 points ahead,” Jones snapped, which made little sense, other than to illustrate how easily the man will retreat into his bizarre talking points. “We all get mainstream media has a big problem.”

The segment didn’t rise to the vaunted effectiven­ess of the 1954 See It Now showdown between CBS’s Edward R Murrow and Senator Joseph McCarthy, but, in the often selective memory bank of American culture, nothing ever will. That kind of TV journalism is long gone and nothing could have driven that point more homeward than the brief commentary delivered at the show’s end by NBC’s anchor emeritus Tom Brokaw, who lamented a nation’s short supply of civilised discourse.

“We cannot allow the agents of hate to go unchalleng­ed and become the imprint of our time,” he said. “We’ll always have our difference­s of course, but in our finest moments we’re a republic that thrives when it recognises common threats and takes them on. This is a time of common threats requiring uncommon courage. It is a time to step up.”

The 77-year-old Brokaw, whose commanding voice has aged into something less sturdy, had clearly been called in to supply a journalist­ic gravitas and represent an endangered species of broadcast news. Good night and good luck, in a Sunday Night With Megyn Kelly kind of world, has been replaced with the cold, hard stare. Which, as it happens, remains Kelly’s surest and perhaps only journalist­ic asset.

 ?? ILANA PANICH-LINSMAN/THE NEW YORK TIMES ?? Alex Jones, conservati­ve conspiracy theorist and operator of Infowars.com, in the control room of his right-wing radio show, in Austin, Texas, on February 17.
ILANA PANICH-LINSMAN/THE NEW YORK TIMES Alex Jones, conservati­ve conspiracy theorist and operator of Infowars.com, in the control room of his right-wing radio show, in Austin, Texas, on February 17.

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