Canadian Geographic

INTERVIEW

The director of the National Centre for Truth and Reconcilia­tion looks ahead to Canada’s bicentenni­al

- INTERVIEW BY ALEXANDRA POPE

Ry Moran, director of the National Centre for Truth and Reconcilia­tion

IIn an opinion piece published by the CBC in December 2016, Ry Moran wrote that he hoped Canada’s 150th year would mark a turning point in the country’s relationsh­ip with its Indigenous Peoples. As director of the National Centre for Truth and Reconcilia­tion, Moran has a challengin­g mandate: ensure that both Indigenous and non-indigenous people in Canada can access the often painful truth of our shared history, so that we can move forward in mutual respect and understand­ing. Here, as the sesquicent­ennial celebratio­ns draw to a close and Canada looks ahead to its next 50 years, Moran reflects on the progress we’ve made — and how far we’ve yet to go.

On the inclusion of Indigenous perspectiv­es in Canada 150

There have been strong efforts made to include Indigenous voices in the conversati­on about our history this year. I went to the opening of the new Canadian History Hall at the Canadian Museum of History in Gatineau, and Indigenous Peoples and perspectiv­es are now much more prevalent. That exhibition also covers things such as residentia­l schools and the Sixties Scoop, which is really positive. But there was a lot of other stuff happening that was not fully reflective of the much longer history Indigenous Peoples have on this land. I think we need to look at 2017 as a starting point on this journey of reconcilia­tion.

On coming to terms with the truth

When we talk about truth and reconcilia­tion, we’re talking about providing a voice to Indigenous people who have been marginaliz­ed. Change is inherently uncomforta­ble, but I think that as a country, we need to become much more comfortabl­e with discomfort. We need to find a degree of peace hearing messages that perhaps we don’t want to hear or don’t understand. And we need to try to create the spaces within ourselves, within our society, within our organizati­ons and institutio­ns, within public discourse, for these uncomforta­ble truths to emerge.

On the debate surroundin­g the removal of monuments and renaming of public buildings

We have to remember that what we’re trying to do with reconcilia­tion is create safe places. Indigenous Peoples’ safety has been affected by this colonial experiment that we’ve called Canada, and we have to think about what those historical figures represent now that this truth is coming out. How does it feel for an Indigenous child who walks into a school that’s named for Sir John A. Macdonald — somebody who oversaw the destructio­n of his or her ancestors’ culture, identity and livelihood, whose intent was to eliminate Indigenous Peoples from this country? It’s a sign of the process of maturation that we’re going through as a country that we’re able to have a much

deeper conversati­on about these figures and decide whether these are the types of people that we actually want representi­ng us.

On the need for an Indigenous geography of Canada

It’s interestin­g how many places in Canada recall or evoke really specifical­ly British memories and realities. We have to remember that is a very recent layer that has been imposed upon this land. It’s not like once upon a time people went around naming mountains and rivers after individual­s; there were meaningful descriptor­s embedded within the names that helped to give shape and identity to where we live and to our relationsh­ip to the land. We’ve got this kind of national narrative that people

“discovered” this place, and we pretend for a second that all of these mountains and all of these lakes didn’t already have names, that the land was devoid of people and connection­s. But the reality is there’s a much deeper, much older narrative. On his hopes for Canada in 2067

I hope we’ll have seen a fundamenta­l shift in the level of understand­ing of Indigenous Peoples and their histories and perspectiv­es. I also hope that society will have really recognized the harmful effects of colonizati­on and the traumas that have been wrought upon Indigenous Peoples, and that we will have taken serious steps to heal those traumas. For Indigenous Peoples themselves, I’m hopeful that we’ll have seen enough of the right kind of support provided to communitie­s, nations and individual­s so that healing work is really able to occur.

 ??  ?? Ry Moran at the National Centre for Truth and Reconcilia­tion at the University of Manitoba in Winnipeg.
Ry Moran at the National Centre for Truth and Reconcilia­tion at the University of Manitoba in Winnipeg.
 ??  ?? The bentwood box, which held offerings commemorat­ing personal journeys toward reconcilia­tion during the Truth and Reconcilia­tion Commission of Canada’s mandate.
The bentwood box, which held offerings commemorat­ing personal journeys toward reconcilia­tion during the Truth and Reconcilia­tion Commission of Canada’s mandate.

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