National Post

A MORE CIVIL DEBATE, NEARLY FOUR METRES APART

Harris, Pence spar over virus

- Michael Martina Joseph Ax and

No repeat of last week’s chaos

SALT LAKE CITY • Vice President Mike Pence and Democratic challenger Kamala Harris clashed early and often over the Trump administra­tion’s handling of the coronaviru­s pandemic during their debate on Wednesday.

The policy- heavy debate stood in stark contrast to last week’s chaotic presidenti­al debate, with Harris going on the attack on topics from health care to the economy, climate change and foreign policy, and Pence defending the Republican administra­tion’s nearly four- year- old record.

“The American people have witnessed what is the greatest failure of any presidenti­al administra­tion in the history of our country,” Harris said as the debate began at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City.

In response, Pence defended the U. S. administra­tion’s efforts to battle the disease, including Trump’s decision in late January to restrict travel from the pandemic’s epicentre in China.

“I want the American people to know that from the very first day, President Donald Trump has put the health of America first,” he said.

The two candidates were separated by 3.6 metres and plexiglass shields, a reminder of the pandemic that has claimed 210,000 American lives and devastated the economy.

The start of the Pence- Harris debate was nothing like the chaos of the first debate last week between Trump and Joe Biden, when Trump repeatedly interrupte­d Biden and the two traded insults. Pence, more even- tempered than Trump, and Harris, a former prosecutor known for sharp questionin­g during Senate hearings, are seen as polished communicat­ors.

Harris played the traditiona­l attack role of the vice presidenti­al candidate, faulting the Trump administra­tion for trying to invalidate the Affordable Care Act health-care law in the midst of a pandemic and assailing Trump for reportedly paying $750 a year in federal income taxes as president.

“When I first heard about it, I literally said, ‘ You mean $ 750,000?’ ” Harris said, referring to a New York Times investigat­ion. “And it was like, ‘No — $750.’ ”

Pence sought to counter her attacks by turning the focus to the economy and tax policy, saying: “On Day One, Joe Biden’s going to raise your taxes.” Harris responded by saying that Biden has vowed not to raise taxes on anyone making less than $400,000 a year.

The vice president also asserted that Biden would ban fracking and embrace the Green New Deal, a massive environmen­tal proposal backed by liberal Democrats. Biden, however, has disavowed both of those positions.

As in the presidenti­al showdown last week, Wednesday’s debate, moderated by USA Today journalist Susan Page, was dominated by discussion of the pandemic and the resulting economic downturn.

Asked about a potential vaccine, Harris said she would only trust the word of scientists, rather than that of Trump, who has promoted unproven treatments in the past.

“If the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it, absolutely,” she said. “But if Donald Trump tells us to take it, I’m not taking it.”

Pence fired back, accusing Harris of underminin­g public confidence in vaccines.

“I think it is unconscion­able,” he said. “Stop playing politics with people’s lives.”

Harris, the first Black woman to serve on a major-party presidenti­al ticket, also attacked Pence on race relations, criticizin­g Trump for turning down an opportunit­y to denounce white supremacis­ts at last week’s debate with Biden.

In response, Pence accused the media of taking Trump’s words out of context and said the president had repeatedly disavowed racist groups.

The age of the two presidenti­al candidates — either Trump, 74, or Biden, 77, would be the oldest president in U. S. history — added weight to the debate, with both Pence and Harris seeking to show they were capable of assuming the office. Trump’s recent COVID- 19 diagnosis has only made that issue more salient.

The two candidates also jockeyed for position in their respective parties; both are widely seen as future presidenti­al candidates, whatever the outcome of November’s contest.

Biden leads Trump in national opinion polls and has an advantage of 12 percentage points in the latest Reuters/ Ipsos survey of likely voters. Polls show the race to be closer in some of the election battlegrou­nd states that could determine the winner.

Harris, who was on the biggest stage of her political career, is a U. S. senator from California picked by Biden in August as his running mate. The daughter of immigrants — her father from Jamaica and her mother from India — Harris is the first Black woman nominated by a major party for vice president as well as the first person of Asian descent.

Pence, a former conservati­ve radio host who debated then- Democratic vice presidenti­al nominee Tim Kaine in 2016, is a former U. S. congressma­n and Indiana governor who has steadfastl­y defended Trump during his tumultuous presidency.

 ?? Brian Snyder / reuters ?? Democratic nominee Senator Kamala Harris and U. S. Vice President Mike Pence at their vice presidenti­al campaign debate Wednesday night.
Brian Snyder / reuters Democratic nominee Senator Kamala Harris and U. S. Vice President Mike Pence at their vice presidenti­al campaign debate Wednesday night.
 ?? BRIAN SNYDER / REUTERS ?? A guest reads her program in the audience as she waits to watch Wednesday night’s debate at University of Utah.
BRIAN SNYDER / REUTERS A guest reads her program in the audience as she waits to watch Wednesday night’s debate at University of Utah.

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