Sherbrooke Record

How better conversati­ons can help reduce vaccine hesitancy for COVID-19 and other shots

- By Myles Leslie Associate Professor, School of Public Policy, University of Calgary

New parents have many decisions to make soon after their baby is born. One of them is about vaccinatio­n.

Between the cooing and crying, cards and bouquets, and yet another change of clothes, parents will be asked about inoculatin­g their infant against childhood illnesses. Where once the answer would have been “yes” by default, the past few decades have seen more Canadian parents hesitate.

Vaccine hesitancy

While vaccinatio­n remains the norm, for a range of reasons exhausted mothers and nervous fathers are saying “We’ll wait” or even “No” to vaccinatio­ns in maternity wards across the country.

In an era of patient-centrism and individual autonomy, the parents’ right to hesitate is accepted. But healthcare profession­als are often worried by both the individual risks and societal consequenc­es of the choices that are being made. Life threatenin­g and altering diseases like polio or measles — once eradicated or marginaliz­ed by vaccines — are creeping back.

Canadians’ attitudes towards COVID-19 vaccines suggest hesitancy and its societal consequenc­es are not limited to the choices of newly minted parents. Recent surveys in Canada, and globally, show many of us are hesitant about vaccines that have been produced with such herculean effort and enormous cost. So many, in fact, that the immunizati­on thresholds required to tame COVID-19 are under threat.

This hesitancy has been described in detail, and linked to people’s politics, past community traumas and attitudes towards science and industry.

However, just what to do about it has been less clear. While most Canadians will say yes to COVID-19 vaccines, many of us also know a friend or a family member who is, at least for the moment, saying no.

Most of us know someone who mistrusts some element of the vaccine — from the speed of its production, to the intentions of its manufactur­ers or deliverers. Indeed, COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy is said to be on the rise, nudged upwards by the various pauses, or stops, introduced by government­s. How, under these conditions, might we turn a “no” into a “maybe,” or even a “yes?”

Motivation­al interviewi­ng

My research team at the University of Calgary’s School of Public Policy started our most recent work with just this question in mind. It turns out the answer was just a few provinces away in Québec, and took us back to newborns and their parents.

We have been working with Canadian federal and World Health Organizati­on funding to support family doctors as they respond to the pandemic. To support better conversati­ons about vaccine hesitancy, we met with Dr. Arnaud Gagneur, a hospital-based neo-natalogist in

Sherbrooke. He and his colleagues are world leaders in improving dialogue around vaccinatio­n with new parents.

The technique they’ve been working with for more than a decade is called motivation­al interviewi­ng and it has shown great success.

Described in academic journals and media coverage, a motivation­al interview is based on a seemingly simple idea: find a vaccine-hesitant person’s positive motivation. The art of accomplish­ing this lies in long and empathetic engagement with the person to get to the roots of their hesitancy.

Those roots will often be negatively expressed: “I don’t like the way it was made,” or “It’s a conspiracy, you know.” Under the principles of motivation­al interviewi­ng, these roots are to be respected and acknowledg­ed, regardless of how gnarled they might appear. Attempting to chop them off with arguments and facts will only encourage the person to sink deeper into their hesitancy. Unless the person’s concerns are acknowledg­ed as valid, facts are more likely to hinder than help.

The aim isn’t to chop off the negative, but rather to have the positive reveal itself. This takes conversati­on, close listening, empathy and above all, trust. Shifting out of the negative reason and into an expression of a positive aspiration is something that takes time, not argument. This, in motivation­al interviewi­ng, is the key to moving from “I’m religiousl­y opposed to the vaccine,” to helping someone understand that vaccinatio­n may allow them to attend worship again soon.

Progress in primary care

Our team was originally dismayed by this. Of course it worked for Dr. Gagneur and his team, but they have huge blocks of time to talk to new parents about their hesitancy. Neither all that time, nor the intensity of a recent birth, are common features of family medicine as practised in Canada. Could the principles of motivation­al interviewi­ng be distilled into the short encounters of most primary care visits?

We were encouraged to seek an answer because family doctors have the expertise and the relationsh­ips to deal with COVID-19 and its long-tailed consequenc­es. They have also been identified as key players in countering vaccine hesitancy. This is because they have the long-term relationsh­ips with patients who trust them, and the space to understand and validate the concerns those patients raise.

Where many people might struggle to find the positive motivation in a friend or family member’s hesitancy, a family doctor is better positioned to do so. With this in mind, our team has been working with doctors from across Canada to develop a pragmatic tool to help them navigate tricky conversati­ons with people considerin­g COVID-19 vaccines, or with parents making decisions about their children.

The tool will be web-based and stocked with helpful examples. Along with the family doctors who have been so generous with their time in developing the tool, we are hoping it will contribute to better conversati­ons about vaccine hesitancy.

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