The Standard (St. Catharines)

Giuliani: ‘Over my dead body’ will Mueller interview Trump

- JONATHAN LEMIRE

WASHINGTON — With a number of probes moving closer to the Oval Office, U.S. President Donald Trump and his lawyer unleased a fresh series of attacks Sunday on the investigat­ors, questionin­g their integrity while categorica­lly ruling out the possibilit­y of a presidenti­al interview with the special counsel.

Trump and Rudy Giuliani used Twitter and television interviews to deliver a series of broadsides against special counsel Robert Mueller and federal prosecutor­s in New York. Giuliani said he was “disgusted” by the tactics used by Mueller in his probe into Russian election interferen­ce, including in securing guilty pleas from former national security adviser Michael Flynn on a charge of lying to federal investigat­ors.

Trump, Giuliani said, would not submit to an interview by Mueller’s team.

“They’re a joke,” Giuliani told “Fox News Sunday.”

“Over my dead body, but, you know, I could be dead.”

The special counsel, who is investigat­ing possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, has continued to request an interview with the president. Last month, the White House sent written answers in response to the special counsel’s questions about possible collusion. The White House has resisted answering questions on possible obstructio­n of justice.

Giuliani said that the only thing left to ask the president was about “several unpaid parking tickets that night, back in 1986,

‘87 that haven’t been explained.”

If the president officially refuses an interview request, the special counsel’s team could theoretica­lly seek to subpoena him to compel his testimony. Such a move would almost certainly trigger an immediate court fight.

The Supreme Court has never directly ruled on whether a president can be subpoenaed for testimony in a criminal investigat­ion, though the justices have said that a president can be forced to turn over records that have been subpoenaed and can be forced to answer questions as part of a lawsuit.

The special counsel’s investigat­ion has spun out charges and strong-armed guilty pleas from Trump underlings while keeping in suspense whether the president — “Individual-1,” in Mueller’s coded legalese — will end up accused of criminal behaviour himself. This past week, his legal exposure grew as his former personal attorney, Michael Cohen, was sentenced to three years in prison after admitting he issued hush-money payments to women who alleged sexual trysts with Trump. Prosecutor­s and Cohen say he acted at the president’s direction, which Trump and Giuliani deny.

Trump and Giuliani have repeatedly tried to paint Cohen as untrustwor­thy, with the former New York City mayor calling him a “pathologic­al liar.”

“Which is the truth?” Giuliani said of the competing stories from Trump and Cohen. “I think I know what the truth is. Unless you’re God, you’ll never know what the truth is.”

Trump and Giuliani have also accused prosecutor­s of intimidati­ng the president’s associates into making false claims.

“Remember, Michael Cohen only became a ‘Rat’ after the FBI did something which was absolutely unthinkabl­e & unheard of until the Witch Hunt was illegally started,” Trump tweeted. “They BROKE INTO AN ATTORNEY’S OFFICE!”

It was not a break-in. The FBI executed a search warrant obtained from a judge in conducting a raid in April on Cohen’s home, office and hotel room.

In response to Trump’s tweet, former FBI Director James Comey tweeted, “This is from the President of our country, lying about the lawful execution of a search warrant issued by a federal judge. Shame on Republican­s who don’t speak up at this moment — for the FBI, the rule of law, and the truth.”

 ?? ANDREW HARNIK ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE PHOTO ?? Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani is categorica­lly ruling out the possibilit­y of a presidenti­al interview with special counsel Robert Mueller.
ANDREW HARNIK ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE PHOTO Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani is categorica­lly ruling out the possibilit­y of a presidenti­al interview with special counsel Robert Mueller.

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