The Walrus

Left v. Right

Why can’t we just get along?

- By Joseph Rosen

Why can’t we just get along?

Curtis Stone, a stranger from Kelowna, British Columbia, is sitting on the couch in my Mile End apartment. It’s a cold March evening, and we’re drinking local beer, eating Saint-andré cheese, and talking music preference­s. Stone — a Barr Brothers fan — is wearing designer glasses and has a hipster haircut. He mentions that, while he now works out west as an organic urban farmer, he used to live in this Montreal neighbourh­ood — in fact, he played in a band here.

Stone, who, at thirty-eight, is a couple of years younger than me, looks as though he could fit in with my group of friends. He seems like a nice enough guy — he’s spent hundreds of hours volunteeri­ng at community gardens, and he once invited a Syrian refugee to tour his farm. He’s even a staunch environmen­talist who refuses to use disposable diapers on his newborn daughter. Still, there is a tension between us. At one point in our conversati­on, he yells out, defensivel­y, “I’m a good person!” I wonder if he’s as sure about that as he insists.

Unlike anyone else who has ever stepped foot in my apartment, Stone is glad that Donald Trump was elected president of the United States. Though he refuses to identify as alt-right (he says that he rejects white supremacy), he does share many positions with the far right. Stone loves the same thought leaders — Milo Yiannopoul­os, Gavin Mcinnes, and, his favourite, Jordan Peterson — who are popular with that camp. He doesn’t like the Black Lives Matter movement, rages against “white, upper-class feminists,” and argues that politicall­y correct lefties are nothing more than authoritar­ians.

Even though Stone champions the US president, he is candid in his assessment of the man. “Trump is an egocentric, megalomani­ac asshole,” he says — something we actually agree on. But Stone also notes that he’s neverthele­ss a Trump fan because the “globalist elites” hate the president. “For me, it’s like the enemy of my enemy is my friend,” he explains. I’m not sure if he considers me to be an enemy as well, but I must admit that even before he stepped foot into my home, I thought that he might be mine.

After the shock of Trump’s election victory a few months earlier, I, like almost everyone else in North America, went online. Social media was a torrent of post- election

rage — a lot of people calling other people racist. Posts alternated between mocking Trump supporters and attacking them for being ignorant bigots. News reports described a groundswel­l of hatred: an altright conference featured Sieg heil- ing white supremacis­ts who saluted Trump, and David Duke, former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, called the election one of the most exciting nights of his life. “Make no mistake about it, our people have played a HUGE role in electing Trump,” he wrote on Twitter. I read post after post and wondered, Is this how war begins?

As a Jew raised in the shadow of the Holocaust, I was trained to be vigilant about the resurgence of fascism. I thought about 1920s Berlin, when left- and rightwing groups fought in the streets. Even though I had a cozy life in Canada, I felt a growing hatred for the people today committing horrible acts. While I recognized that the alt-right conference attendees and David Duke are members of fringe groups, I thought about all the other Trump voters who, without taking part in violence themselves, had willingly joined ranks with these white supremacis­ts. Were Trump supporters — all 63 million of them, as well as their cohorts on this side of the border — also my enemies?

Then one day, I walked into class and found that a student had placed a Make America Great Again hat on my desk. She was teasing me, as I’d spent the term trashtalki­ng Trump. But, after putting on the cap as a joke, I started thinking. Were the people who put on this hat in earnest really that different from me? If I were to meet some of them, might we understand each other a little better and start to undo the angry polarizati­on that seemed to be consuming our society? I decided to try an experiment: I’d spend the next year finding men around my own age who support the US president or have right-wing politics. I didn’t want to debate them or set out to prove them wrong. Instead, I’d listen as they explained why they believe what they believe. I reasoned that the new Trumpian brand of politics seemed to be here to stay, and I hoped that, if I could come to understand my right-wing doppelgäng­ers, maybe one day I could change their minds.

But finding Trump supporters in Canada proved to be difficult, because I live in a bubble. As a feminist and a socialist who supports the welfare state, I feel at home in downtown Montreal. I am vocal in my support of LGBTQ, Indigenous, and immigrant rights, and in my circles, this is pretty much the norm. My friends are other liberal artists, activists, and members of the media, and my job, teaching at a college, has me surrounded with like-minded humanities professors. It took weeks of outreach, plus an online call for volunteers made by The Walrus, before I was able to connect with a Canadian fan of Trump willing to participat­e. And, one cross-country flight later, that’s how Curtis Stone came to be on my couch.

As we get to know each other a little better, Stone explains that he considered himself a liberal up until about six years ago. His politics began to change, however, when he left the musician life behind and became a farmer. He met a lot of the people he and his friends had often derided — “the Christian, Republican, gun-toting rednecks that all of us liberals make fun of.” But he found these conservati­ves to be accepting, rather than hostile, people who gave to charity and helped others in their community. “That was sort of a trigger to a greater cognitive dissonance to what my liberal values were,” he says. Stone continued his rightward drift after he became influenced by libertaria­n icon Ron Paul, and he later started believing that taxation was theft. But his journey to conservati­sm came at a price: certain friends cut off contact, and Stone claims that one even sought out his farm’s customers to inform them of his new-found politics in an attempt to start a boycott. “I don’t want to demean the term, but I feel like I have come out of the closet,” Stone says (he quickly adds that his brother, brotherin-law, and best friend are all gay).

Two hours into our time together, I am surprised to find that speaking with my ideologica­l enemy has become easy. Though we have our disagreeme­nts, we find ways to

laugh at our disputes. Then, not long after we switch from beer to Scotch, we move on to the concept of white privilege. That’s when we get into the subject of “the Jews.”

It starts when Stone talks about how he grew up working-class and how he believes that the idea of white privilege is nothing more than “reverse racism.” Stone agrees that gender privilege and race privilege exist but argues that concerns about them are overblown. “It’s class. To me, it’s all class,” he says, sounding like an old-school Marxist. “And it just so happens that the majority of the wealthy people in the world are white. In fact, they’re Jews.” Oh shit, I think. Stone is completely wrong, but he goes on to tell me that the top banks and the top media companies are all run by Jews. My eyebrows arch, and Stone explains that he doesn’t think it’s a nefarious conspiracy but rather a consequenc­e of centuries of persecutio­n against Jewish people, such as when we were denied the right to own real estate. “You can be a social-justice warrior who stands for equality, and you can talk shit about white people until you’re blue in the face, but then as soon as somebody points out that no, actually, the top dogs in the world are all Jews — yes they’re white, but they’re Jews — then now all of a sudden you’re a racist,” Stone says.

Hearing a right-wing guy spout these old, incorrect anti-semitic tropes makes me uncomforta­ble — hatred directed toward Jews is on the rise, and the Anti-defamation League found that the number of reported incidents of anti-semitism in the US was approximat­ely 60 percent higher in 2017 compared to 2016. But, even so, I don’t feel right assuming that Stone is being malicious.

Stone and I spend the following day together. We go for breakfast and then wander through the Musée d’art contempora­in de Montréal. Throughout these activities, we never stop discussing politics. I disagree with almost all of Stone’s opinions on feminism and trans rights and Indigenous issues and the importance of the Black Lives Matter movement. But something happens that I find distressin­g. Some of his arguments contain kernels of opinion that I can’t immediatel­y dismiss — such as when he points out that he thinks that identity politics divide us by race and privilege into “the oppressor and the oppressed” and laments how this can affect his sense of shared community. I understand his stated desire for connection, and a new thought enters my mind: What if my political opposite isn’t motivated purely by hate? What if I think that he has some fair points after all? W hen I told friends that I was setting out to find my right-wing doppelgäng­ers, they didn’t approve. Xenophobic politics in Canada may not have reached the levels seen in the US and Europe, but their arrival seems imminent. In these seemingly warlike conditions, knowing the enemy — and, especially, humanizing them — feels tantamount to treason.

Stephen Jones of Georgetown, Ontario, describes the message he receives from contempora­ry Canadian society this way: “What side are you on? The side of good, cool, smart, sophistica­ted, understand­ing, sensitive progressiv­es? Or are you a backwards, neo-con, so-con, bigoted, evangelica­l, hate-fuelled conservati­ve?”

I spent nine months in email correspond­ence with Jones, a forty-year- old Conservati­ve-voting born-again Christian who works in marketing. I was surprised to discover that Jones doesn’t actually like the US president, because he doesn’t think that he embodies Christian values. Jones, however, tells me that he can understand why Trump has been so successful. He says that many people — himself included — find the imposition of politicall­y correct values aggressive. “Many conservati­ves have tried to have an elevated debate about these emotional issues and have been screamed down at campuses and political rallies,” Jones says. But then, he says, Trump came along and outscreame­d the liberals.

Jones thinks that Trump-style politics are coming to Canada for this very reason. “Many folks are fine with trying to keep up with the latest cultural evolution,” he says. But he argues that it’s difficult to stay on top of changing terminolog­ies, such as switching from “gay” to acronyms such as “LGBTQ.” Jones also complains that he went from being asked to accept same-sex marriage to being asked to acknowledg­e trans youth in quick succession. “Most people on any side of the spectrum don’t have an issue with accepting people or how they want to be referred to,” he tells me. “They just sometimes legitimate­ly get lost in the speed of the changes. And as soon as that happens, they are treated like they are evil for not knowing any better.”

No one should have to wait to get equal rights, but I feel some sympathy for Jones’s confusion. I also find it interestin­g that his concern is one I’ve heard before: Stone also said he thinks that liberals are quick to dismiss the right by labelling right wingers evil. Both men also describe feeling that, if they question or disagree with certain social positions, they will be excommunic­ated by some groups. They may sound paranoid, but they aren’t entirely wrong: as early as 2015, the Washington Post reported on services and websites that advised people on how to detect and unfriend all Trump supporters on Facebook, “so you can expel them from your social circles more efficientl­y.”

This kind of unwillingn­ess to communicat­e across the political divide is something that danah boyd (whose name is spelled in all lower case letters), principal researcher at Microsoft, advocates against. “You can love someone and disagree with their world view,” says boyd, who is also a visiting professor at New York University’s Interactiv­e Telecommun­ications Program and has written about how self-segregatio­n and political polarizati­on are harming democracie­s. I ask her if there’s any point in talking to people who are set in their beliefs if we can’t change each other’s opinions. She says that rather than proselytiz­ing, people need to seek out common ground — where it does exist — and identify where difference­s come from. Actions like these, she says, help create a healthy society in which disagreeme­nts can be expressed respectful­ly rather than adversaria­lly. “It’s the love that builds the social fabric, not the shared world view,” she says.

Jones and I, unsurprisi­ngly, disagree on most issues. He believes that a person’s gender is only biological­ly determined, and he is against same-sex marriage, and I think the opposite. But, to his credit, he never dismisses me or my opinions. “If Iavoided everyone I have a fundamenta­l moral difference with, I would be pretty lonely,” he admits. I appreciate his willingnes­s to talk politics, but I can’t help but wonder if I’d be as receptive if I were a member of the LGBTQ community, a woman, or both. It’s not my life he’s judging or my rights that he’s questionin­g.

The inconsiste­ncy of Jones’s ethics comes into clearer focus when he tells me about his relationsh­ip with two of his friends, who are a same-sex couple.

While he believes they are living in sin, he adds that “they are our friends, and we watch each other’s pets, have each other over for dinner, and include each other in parties. My wife and I love them.” Even though he disagrees with their relationsh­ip, Jones also tells me that “judging is not something the Bible calls anyone to do.” I find myself struck by his perspectiv­e, which comes down to recognizin­g that “we are all sinners,” himself included. Ultimately, Jones hopes to convert these friends, spread the gospel, and save their souls. Then another thought hits me: a similar kind of evangeliza­tion could be said to exist on the left. We hope to convert those on the right to the religion of liberalism.

Despite Jones’s professed love for his gay friends, he mentions that he isn’t sure what he’d do if they were to get married. He doesn’t think he could attend the ceremony because that could qualify as “leading them into sin.” His theoretica­l problem becomes real when he receives an invitation to their wedding. A few weeks later, Jones tells me that he’d been stalling to send back his RS VP because he is unsure which is more loving: writing a letter telling his friends that he believes marriage should be between a man and a woman or declining the invitation and letting them “enjoy their day.”

In the end, Jones didn’t go to the wedding because he was on vacation. Instead, he sent a gift and a card that quoted from 1 Corinthian­s. It read, “And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” D avid Burns suspects that I, a member of the so-called liberal media, am not to be trusted. There is, he tells me over the phone, a specific reason for this: those on the left are quick to dismiss people on the right as racist. “[If] you accuse somebody of being a racist, you no longer have to listen to that person. You no longer have to take their opinions into considerat­ion,” he says. I connected with Burns, who lives in Calgary and works in the oil-and-gas industry, through a mutual friend. Burns is well-educated, with a degree in history and English, and he worked as a journalist for a couple of years after university. “Ialways tell my kids, ‘When you’re watching the news, don’t just look at the informatio­n they’re telling you,’” he says. “‘Ask yourself why they’re telling you this story in this way.’”

Burns seems angry. He talks about how the “globalist forces” are “trying to erode nation states,” and he believes that the so-called global 1 percent is in cahoots with government­s and is getting insanely wealthy by screwing over regular people. Burns likes Trump because, he says, the US president has articulate­d an opposition to globalizat­ion. But Burns is distrustfu­l of all political parties. He tells me that Canada’s Liberals and Conservati­ves form “interchang­eable government­s” that provide the “illusion of choice.” I’m glad to finally be on the same page — this is exactly the sort of thing that I discuss with my leftwing friends.

I ask Burns about all the negatives that have come with Trump’s presidency, such as the discrimina­tion that intensifie­d across the US. His response: “All the world’s a stage and all the men and women are players.” I find this answer to be confusing. After all, there have been ongoing reports of alleged crimes directed at racialized people — in October 2016, for instance, three men were arrested for allegedly planning to set explosives targeting Somali immigrants in Kansas. I send Burns a link to “Ten Days After,” a report on post-election hate crimes compiled by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The SPLC found that there were 867 reported cases of harassment and intimidati­on within ten days following the 2016 presidenti­al election and that “many harassers invoked Trump’s name during assaults.” The report also described a historical­ly black church in Mississipp­i that was set on fire and graffitied with the words “vote Trump” prior to the election. Burns pounces and declares the story to be false. Weeks after the arson (and after the SPLC published its report, which was later corrected), police discovered that a member of the church, not a Trump supporter, had actually done the damage. Burns immediatel­y goes on the attack and uses the inclusion of the arson anecdote to dismiss not only the report but also the SPLC itself. “Educators, as you evidenced

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