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Everyone’s talking about Sir John A.

- CHARLA HUBER charla@makola.bc.ca Charla Huber works in communicat­ions and Indigenous relations for M’akola Group of Societies.

There has been a lot of talk about Sir John A. Macdonald, and I think that’s a good thing. Whether or not people agree with Victoria city council’s decision to remove the statue from in front of Victoria City Hall, our city, province and country have all been discussing Macdonald, his legacy, his leadership and his mistakes.

I know a lot of people are upset with the process Victoria city council took and the lack of public consultati­on in the process. Members of city council met representa­tives from Songhees and Esquimalt Nations, the two Nations whose traditiona­l territory the city of Victoria resides on, including city hall.

I work in Indigenous relations, and I know how important it is to take the time to listen, understand and take action where needed when working with Indigenous communitie­s. It’s a crucial component to building meaningful relationsh­ips.

Last year, I was a world café facilitato­r at the Western Indigenous Consultati­on and Engagement Conference hosted by the Canadian Institute. I spoke with representa­tives from more than 30 Indigenous communitie­s from across Western Canada about how government­s and organizati­ons can engage better. The No. 1 complaint was a lack of action, followed by a lack of understand­ing and respect.

The City of Victoria took the time to listen — over the course of a year — and it took action.

Yes, city council could have done a better job of informing the public, or extending the timeline in which this all took place.

Maybe city council wanted to demonstrat­e that through the reconcilia­tion process, there are some things that need to be decided by the Nations themselves.

The City of Victoria publicly committed to a reconcilia­tion process. Reconcilia­tion is an important and serious thing. It’s a word that a lot of people use in conversati­on, but I am not sure people have a full understand­ing of what true reconcilia­tion is.

People in Victoria have been voicing concerns over the lack of consultati­on. There was consultati­on regarding the removal of the statue; it was with Indigenous communitie­s.

For hundreds of years, Indigenous communitie­s have been undermined and treated unfairly by various levels of government. These are the reasons the statue was removed.

Macdonald was the man behind implementi­ng residentia­l schools. The residentia­l-school system is a key player in the damage that has occurred, and the damage wasn’t erased or diminished when the schools closed. It has affected and is still affecting generation­s.

We probably won’t ever know for sure if he knew about all the abuse, mental anguish and unspeakabl­e things that occurred in the schools. There were many players in the tragedy that residentia­l schools left behind, not just Macdonald.

When I think about this issue, I think about the victims of residentia­l schools, the victims of historical injustices and racism that existed back then and is still around today.

During the time when Macdonald was our prime minister, no one listened to, respected or valued Indigenous people. Again, that was how things were then; it wasn’t just Macdonald.

If removing the statue from city hall can let Indigenous people know that they have been heard and understood, and their opinion is important, it is something I support. It’s a small act demonstrat­ing the City of Victoria respects and values Indigenous people.

Macdonald isn’t being removed from Canadian history; his name isn’t going to be forgotten. I think we need to put things in perspectiv­e and identify that the statue is just being moved. Where to? I am not sure if there is an answer yet. We do know he won’t be relocated to Ontario.

If Songhees and Esquimalt Nations’ representa­tives requested it be moved, I support that. After all, we are all on their traditiona­l territory: our homes, our schools, workplaces, parks, grocery stores and recreation centres.

Sir John. A Macdonald will always be Canada’s first prime minister. He will always be a big part of Canadian history, and nothing is going to take that away. I think it’s a safe bet that more people have been talking about Macdonald this month than have thought about him all year.

 ?? TC FILE ?? Crews remove the statue of John A. Macdonald in front of Victoria City Hall on Aug. 11. If the statue’s removal lets Indigenous people know they have been heard, the process was worthwhile, Charla Huber writes.
TC FILE Crews remove the statue of John A. Macdonald in front of Victoria City Hall on Aug. 11. If the statue’s removal lets Indigenous people know they have been heard, the process was worthwhile, Charla Huber writes.
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