Green Book star on race, the N-word
LOS ANGELES — Roughly halfway through Green Book, about one of the unlikeliest friendships of the pre-Civil Rights era, Jamaican piano prodigy Don Shirley (Mahershala Ali) explains to his Italian-American driver and companion, Frank “Tony Lip” Vallelonga (Viggo Mortensen), that though he’s found success playing popular music, he was trained for the classical stage.
“Trained?” says Vallelonga. “What are you, a seal? People love what you do. Anyone can sound like Beethoven or Joe Pan or them other guys you said. But your music, what you do, only you can do that.”
“Thank you, Tony,” Shirley says patiently. “But not everyone can play Chopin, not like I can.”
The scene, one of the film’s most poignant insights into the musician’s conflicted feelings about his identity and legacy, was not always written that way.
“Dr. Shirley used to just say: ‘Thank you, Tony,’ and that’s it, that’s the scene,” recalled Ali over lunch in Los Feliz. “Like, ‘I appreciate it, you’re right. People love my music and despite the racism, what I became as a result is all right, I’m cool with it.’ And that scene always ate at me. It just didn’t ring true to me as a black person. It felt like what I would call a TV moment.”
After watching Nina Simone’s Netflix documentary What Happened, Miss Simone? Ali was able to pinpoint just what it was that bugged him about the scene and brought it to director Peter Farrelly.
“I spoke at length with him about Nina Simone in that, as much as we love and appreciate her music, she didn’t become who she wanted to become, she became who she was allowed to become,” he said of the legendary dive-bar chanteuse, who’d originally had designs on being a classical pianist.
“The fact is, as a person, as an individual knowing and feeling the creativity within herself, Nina Simone lived and died not being what she wanted to be. I think that that is true for so many black artists. And Don Shirley was the same way.”
Green Book is already being floated as a potential best picture nominee after claiming the Oscar predictive People’s Choice Award in its world première at the Toronto International Film Festival. Ali’s portrayal of the emotionally tortured Shirley is all but guaranteed to earn him a supporting actor nod. If so, it would mark his second Academy Award nomination, after a breakout turn in Barry Jenkins’ dazzling Moonlight, for which he took home the trophy in 2016. But awards consideration, though appreciated, couldn’t be less of a driving force for the actor.
“We’re not going into it like, ‘OK, so when we look at the Oscar contenders, these films need to have these boxes checked,’ ” he said. The 44-year-old just wants to continue taking roles that are different from those he’s played during 20 years in the industry.
“I don’t ever want to do something I’ve already done. I’m not interested in that at all.”
Though Farrelly calls him an “unbelievable actor,” the director was hesitant to cast Ali because of the tonal difference between the outwardly powerful drug-dealer Juan in Moonlight and the more delicate, internal restraint of Shirley.
“He was such an imposing figure in Moonlight,” said Farrelly. “He was big and strong and really a force. And Dr. Shirley is not that. I thought maybe Mahershala might be too big a figure for this film, but when I met him, and he talked about who this guy was, he quickly became him. It was such an impressive performance.”
“This is going to sound like b.s., but it was an honour and a pleasure [working with Ali],” said Mortensen. “For me, the foundation of good acting is always good reacting. I’m looking at his face and there are all these incredible, minute, beautiful reactions. Like, so precise, his work. It was really difficult to keep a straight face because he was so hilarious and getting perfect timing.”
The painstaking performances of the two leads elevate the film’s fairly simple premise: In 1962, Shirley, a distinguished pianist, prepares to embark on a concert tour that will take him through the Deep South. He knows he needs to hire some muscle, which is where Lip comes in, a racist bouncer who just lost his job at Manhattan’s Copacabana nightclub. (The title Green Book came from The Negro Motorist Green-Book, Victor Hugo Green’s guide for African Americans to find safe accommodations in segregated Southern towns.)
Over the course of the trip, Shirley and Vallelonga become friends, a dynamic the has earned the film comparisons to The Odd Couple and deemed a “reverse Driving Miss Daisy, ” a description that rankles Ali.
“There’s absolutely no such thing, it’s impossible,” he said. “Because in either scenario, if you make the white person the driver or if you make the white person the passenger, the white person is still free in society. That’s like saying: ‘Now the white person is black in this scenario.’ The white person is never black in any scenario. The switch just doesn’t work.”
He also rails against the notion that the film employs cinema’s longstanding “white saviour” trope.
“It’s unfair to say we can’t see a movie in this time where a white guy does something that helps a black guy,” he said. “I think that’s kind of stupid, honestly. Because then it always has to be the black person saving or doing something that is heroic for the white person, because we’ve got to balance out 100 years of cinema.”
Ali was immediately sold on the opportunity to play a character as dynamic and rich in texture as Shirley.
“The opportunity to step into the shoes of a man with that much complexity — who spoke eight languages, was a piano prodigy, had affluence and was successful and connected — even though he’s in an environment that limits his freedom, I think that he has more power than any other black character that I’ve personally seen in a pre-Civil Rights-era film or story.”
When Mortensen came under fire for using the N-word in a discussion of how times have changed since the Green Book era during an awards season Q&A, Ali was able to find the silver lining in what he calls a “teachable moment.”
“There’s nothing in me that believes that Viggo is racist,” he said. “And even in him using the word, it wasn’t intended to be racist — if anything it was the opposite. It’s sort of a perfect moment in that it’s actually exactly what the film is about — awareness.
“Anytime a non-black person says that word, a little bomb goes off,” he said. “What Viggo said, it’s not about it being politically incorrect because he was well-intended, but within [the black] community, that’s a word that we get to figure out how and when we want to use it, if we want to use it at all. That’s something that we as a community need the time and space to have a conversation about.”
Mortensen said the two spoke about what happened following the Q&A and are better friends than ever now. “We understand each other and I’m relieved because we started out really tight. Sometimes a friendship can get tested and if you’re lucky, you can come out on the other side even better and that’s actually what happened. He’s a big man and he has a big heart and I love him.”
Though it only makes sense that conversations about race dominate the press run for Green Book, Ali says it’s a nagging point of discussion no matter what project he’s promoting.
“When I go and do these press junkets … I always spend a good 30 per cent to 40 per cent of the time talking about race,” he said. “You spend so much time as a black artist speaking about the black experience that it’s almost like the writers are conditioned to speak to me on those terms. Which is cool, but they still don’t necessarily reserve enough space to really get into the nuances of the work.”
Despite this, he allows that Hollywood is much more open to diverse stories and storytellers now than in the recent past.
“I think Hollywood is always ready to embrace a new vein, a new anything that’s going to help expand storytelling that is also economically beneficial,” he said.