Toronto Star

Taking a swipe at a real-estate matchmakin­g

A reboot of TheRedPin will use data to recommend properties

- TESS KALINOWSKI REAL ESTATE REPORTER

If you can swipe right and find a mate, why not a mid-century modern house in Leaside?

That’s the premise of Keith McSpurren’s reboot of web-based real estate brokerage TheRedPin. He wants to harness technology to transform the traditiona­l real-estate industry.

Machine learning and software won’t replace agents, but they will standardiz­e and streamline the property search and they will sharpen the industry’s tools, says the 47-year-old, who has two decades of experience as a start-up guy and corporate turnaround man.

“In its essence, I think it’s mathematic­al,” McSpurren says.

Long-standing real-estate practices, including the industry’s white-knuckle grip on data, make it ripe for the kind of disruption that technology has wrought on sectors such as transporta­tion and entertainm­ent.

It starts with an idea that TheRedPin calls its Pick 3 Challenge, which is similar to how Netflix recommends movies based on its customers’ past preference­s.

Users of the website are offered the chance to click on three properties.

Then they get a bare-bones email with pictures of three more properties.

House hunters put a check mark or an X under the pictures, depending on whether they like it or not. Based on their preference­s, the system sends them other similar properties refining the choices each time to provide a closer match.

Right now, the Pick 3 homes are selected by human beings, with the results fed into a recommenda­tion engine so that, in time, the software can take over the process entirely.

“Software remembers and learns, and that’s the biggest differenti­ator that I’m trying to bring to the company.” KEITH MCSPURREN CEO, THEREDPIN

“If the person says ‘yes,’ and we do our sort of Tinder yes/no, yes/no, it’s helpful for the consumer in the moment. But it’s even more helpful for the next consumer that shows up,” he says.

The current system of searching properties will eventually match a buyer with a home. But the informatio­n that kind of buyer brings to the transactio­n — space requiremen­ts, proximity to schools or roads — stays with one agent. It doesn’t benefit the next customer in line.

But, McSpurren says, “software does that because software remembers and learns, and that’s the biggest differenti­ator that I’m trying to bring to the company.”

During the six months he has occupied the spartan corner office of TheRedPin’s Church and Front Sts. loftlike headquarte­rs, McSpurren has picked a team of 10 software developers, part of a head office that used to be about 45 to 30 employees. The company also has a network of about 80 agents.

The CEO says he is applying the operationa­l discipline that was lacking prior to his arrival. Each person has a role on a team focused on transformi­ng the real-estate experience.

He figures that by the end of the year, TheRedPin will be on its way to delivering on that technology-based promise.

“Our favouritin­g system and our learning system, even in its rudimentar­y stages, already works better. They don’t have anything like that and neither does anyone else I know of,” he says.

Leveraging artificial-intelligen­ce (AI) technology into a system to match consumers with properties is certainly feasible, says associate professor Alex Wong of the Department of Systems Engineerin­g at the University of Waterloo, who spoke about the technology in general but not TheRedPin specifical­ly.

“The technology is ready, and I wouldn’t say it’s stretching the imaginatio­n of applying it to real estate,” he says.

It may not have happened yet because real estate is a well-establishe­d business — those typically take longer to assess the impacts and potential benefits of technology such as AI. But the industry has something that is key to AI — a standardiz­ed listing system and customer profiles.

“One of the things that is crucial to powerful AI is informatio­n,” Wong says.

He warned, however, that any recommenda­tion system needs to work well if the broker wants to establish and maintain trust with its clients and agents.

New tools are something McSpurren wants to provide TheRedPin agents. Giving his agents better technology helps set them apart.

TheRedPin’s new app — available for Android and iOS — allows clients to track exactly where their agents are at all times. So if a customer is waiting to tour a home or submit an offer, they can see if the agent is right around the corner or stuck in traffic.

“Then we evolve it beyond that,” McSpurren says. “So if I’m an agent, I’m out taking pictures of some houses, I don’t have to email them to you, they just show up on your app so you can see them.”

McSpurren’s own lack of a realestate licence cements his status as an outsider. You don’t need a realestate licence to see a highly fragmented industry running on the same business model for decades, he says. Upon earning his business degree from Wilfrid Laurier University, he spent only four years on his starter career as a Procter & Gamble brand manager handling household names such as Mr. Clean, Pringles and Pantene shampoo.

He was lured away by a media job that he hated four months in. So, he joined forces with a friend from P&G, who had left to do an MBA at Harvard.

“This is 1998 and we both thought this internet thing was really cool,” McSpurren says. “Eight months later, we’ve got $4 million in venture capital and we’re building a company called Sales Driver.”

It was a system that allowed corporate salespeopl­e to collect points toward prizes. They sold it in the middle of the dot.com crash in 2001.

For the next 10 years, McSpurren managed a private equity firm for extended family. Among its holdings was a failing furniture company in Durham, Ont.

“This was my first turnaround experience. As the person running the fund that had an investment, I ended up getting a board seat, terminatin­g the CEO and then became the CEO until I found a furniture guy to take over.”

McSpurren’s next venture was CoverItLiv­e, an early blogging platform that was picked up by news outlets including the Toronto Star. It made a lot of money — until an Apple launch precipitat­ed its meltdown.

That was followed by Class Messenger, a platform allowing parents and teachers to speak confidenti­ally and directly over the internet. It was bought by a U.S. company last year.

TheRedPin’s investors include TrilogyGro­wth, headed by Joel Silver and financed by Gerry Schwartz’s Onex Corp., and Som Seif’s Purpose Investment­s.

They want to see traction on his ideas in relatively short order, McSpurren says.

But, he adds, the big-name backers offer inspiratio­n as well as financing and its attendant pressure.

“I’ve been in my own companies before where I thought I had a great idea and great execution but I had trouble finding investors,” he said.

“In this case, they’re sitting there going, ‘We believe in what you’ve said. Now start to deliver it and we’ll accelerate behind it.’ ”

 ?? VINCE TALOTTA/TORONTO STAR ?? TheRedPin CEO Keith McSpurren says the app would set his agents apart.
VINCE TALOTTA/TORONTO STAR TheRedPin CEO Keith McSpurren says the app would set his agents apart.

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