Toronto Star

Doobie Brother turned missile expert

Veteran guitarist discusses his two contrastin­g passions and a favourite rock star

- SARAH POLUS

Jeff “Skunk” Baxter has had the kind of music career that most kids jamming in their parents’ garages could only dream of. He was the guitarist for two big rock ’n’ roll bands — Steely Dan and the Doobie Brothers — played as a session member for musical artists such as Eric Clapton, Dolly Parton and Sheryl Crow, and has toured with the likes of Elton John and Linda Ronstadt.

He also has security clearances and chairs the U.S. Congressio­nal Advisory Board on missile defence.

Baxter, who was born in Washington, D.C., returned to his old stomping grounds to host a charity concert Tuesday benefiting the Marine Corps Scholarshi­p Foundation, an organizati­on that aids the children of Marines in their educationa­l pursuits. We chatted with Baxter after he touched down in the nation’s capital.

You were born in the District of Columbia. How often do you come back?

I’m here probably at least half the year, if not more, working with different agencies and companies in different branches of government work.

You’ve had a successful career in music, and also have a security clearance and work in defence. How did that come to be?

Back in the early ’90s, I wrote a paper on utilizing the navy platform and a navy air defence system for theatre missile defence based on some knowledge that I had. A few months later, I gave it to a congressma­n friend of mine who then gave it to the vice chairman of the armed services committee. And he said, “Is this guy from Raytheon or Boeing?” and he said, “No, he’s a guitar player for the Doobie Brothers.” Without getting into too much detail, let’s just say that another community had reached out to me. And so next thing I knew, I was strapped to a chair and telling them everything I knew, and then ended up at Lawrence Livermore (National Laboratory) with Department of Energy clearances for nuclear weapons and stuff. You’re originally self-taught in this field.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I was reading about missile defence and other military programs because I was working — and still do work — for a couple of major musical instrument companies, and at that time back in the ’90s, it was sort of the beginning of commercial­izing digital recording as opposed to analogue. The only way I could get the informatio­n (about new software) was to read the defence magazines. So I guess something clicked somewhere and I wrote the paper. Next thing I knew I was working for General (Malcolm) O’Neill at the Pentagon. Is it rare that a famous musician would have security clearances?

No, in fact my old boss at Lawrence Livermore who now is up at the University of Rochester, Mike Campbell, has asked me to reach out to the lead guitar player for Queen, Brian May, because Brian just got his PhD in astrophysi­cs. And there’s a wonderful guitar manufactur­er named Paul Reed Smith who has come up with a brilliant, without getting too specific, underwater detection system that is amazing. So I connected him with the Office of Naval Research and the folks at Northrop Grumman. So it’s not that far out.

Did you ever feel like people didn’t take you seriously?

Of course. But I think it’s an advantage to be underrated. It helps you get through some of the problemati­cs, I guess, of how people accept you... if their expectatio­ns aren’t that high. Were you ever worried your defence work would negatively influence your music career?

I try to stay away from the political side of anything, but I think some folks have a tendency to equate national security and politics. They can’t separate them. And they are really separate. Certainly in Los Angeles there’s a very liberal philosophy that is very pervasive. So before 9/11, a lot of people thought I was nuts. After, a lot of my friends who were not quite sure what I was doing were coming up to me and saying, “Hey, how can we help?” You’ve worked with many famous artists, from Jimi Hendrix to Sheryl Crow. Who influenced you most?

I grew up in Mexico City. And the music environmen­t there was very eclectic. I think when I was 10 years old, my dad took me to see the jazz all-stars Ella Fitzgerald and Charlie Parker, and it was an incredible experience for me. My mom started giving me piano lessons when I was 5, and my dad had a great collection of jazz.

Howard Roberts ... His first two albums really influenced my guitar playing. And then the rock ’n’ roll stuff. I was a big Ventures fan.

And Winston Churchill was a huge influence on me. He made some mistakes, but he saved the Western world. I mean anybody who can sit naked in a bathtub with a bottle of brandy, smoking a cigar and having a conversati­on with the president of the United States is a rock star.

Can you elaborate on the origins of your nickname “Skunk?”

That’ll be in my book. I wanted to write a book because people have told me that my life is very interestin­g. But it’s all because I grew up in America. You know, I live in an America where a rock ’n’ roll star can decide that he wants to contribute to national security, and vice versa. President Donald Trump ended up turning to politics after being a star in the entertainm­ent world, too. Do you have any thoughts on his presidency?

I try to stay away from politics. There’s a lot of vituperati­on, especially in this town ... There are presidents that I like and presidents that I don’t like, but I took an oath to defend the Constituti­on and a duly elected president of the United States is my president. Yeah, and I do have a problem with people saying he’s not my president.

I think it’s important to believe in this system. And there’s some things I do like about him — he signed that music legislatio­n (the Music Modernizat­ion Act), which other people wouldn’t do. I thought that was a nice move. Sometimes I think that we get the right person at the right time, whether you like them or not.

 ?? ETHAN MILLER GETTY IMAGES ?? Guitarist Jeff "Skunk" Baxter has security clearances and chairs the U.S. Congressio­nal Advisory Board on missile defence. When asked if he’s ever struggled to be taken seriously, he said, “Of course. But I think it’s an advantage to be underrated.”
ETHAN MILLER GETTY IMAGES Guitarist Jeff "Skunk" Baxter has security clearances and chairs the U.S. Congressio­nal Advisory Board on missile defence. When asked if he’s ever struggled to be taken seriously, he said, “Of course. But I think it’s an advantage to be underrated.”

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