Toronto Star

Scheer not planning to lose election

Federal Conservati­ve leader said he won’t lose ground to Bernier’s People’s Party either

- TONDA MACCHARLES OTTAWA BUREAU

Federal Conservati­ve Leader Andrew Scheer believes he will be prime minister by this time next year, after defeating Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to lead his party to a majority government.

If he only holds Trudeau to a minority government, Scheer believes Conservati­ves will be happy for him to stick around as leader and try again in 2023, if not sooner.

And if he loses the 2019 federal election outright?

Scheer insists he hasn’t thought about that prospect. At all.

In a wide-ranging conversati­on with the Star at a holiday reception he hosted at Stornoway, the official residence of the Opposition leader, Scheer did allow that one factor he’d weigh if he does lose is the toll of public life on his family.

The 39-year-old father of five will have been in office for 15 years by then, with all of his kids born since he became MP for Regina-Qu’Appelle in 2004. So he has thought about it. Yet Scheer insists he’s not planning to lose. Not to Trudeau, nor to Jagmeet Singh, the embattled NDP leader.

Scheer openly wishes Singh was doing better, and frequently encourages New Democrats to focus their political fire on the Trudeau Liberals — their common enemy — rather than take shots at his party.

Left-wing vote splits are important in ridings where strong Conservati­ve candidates can come up the middle to win.

At the reception where he invited journalist­s to mingle with his shadow ministers (as he calls them), senior staff and Conservati­ve commentato­rs, Scheer also said he won’t lose ground to Maxime Bernier, the high-profile party defector and rival for Conservati­ve voters.

Bernier went out in August with a bang, declaring the Scheer-led Conservati­ves were driven solely by polls and “too intellectu­ally and morally corrupt to be reformed.”

Bernier created his own political vehicle: the People’s Party of Canada.

“Max is not going to win one seat, including his own,” Scheer predicted.

Scheer won the support of social conservati­ves and dairy farmers during the leadership race in which he beat Bernier, and now he’s nominated a popular local mayor and a former president of an associatio­n of Quebec municipali­ties to run against Bernier in 2019 in his home riding of Beauce.

The only irritant, Scheer says, is Bernier could pull away some bedrock libertaria­n conservati­ve support in western ridings where the traditiona­l Conservati­ve vote might splinter, but “there’s nothing I can do about that.”

And if Scheer is worried after a couple of internal critics were granted anonymity to subtly undermine him recently in the National Post, the Conservati­ve leader does not show it.

Still, the politician who should be the centre of attention in a room is not a person around whom a crowd naturally gathers, even at a party in his own house.

According to the most recent poll from Nanos Research, Scheer lags Trudeau by about 10 percentage points as the preferred choice for prime minister. Charisma is not his strong point. Scheer himself jokes about his dad jokes, his dad body and his dimpled smile.

On the upside, the NDP leader is in a much worse place, with Singh trailing Green Leader Elizabeth May, both languishin­g in the single digits, and Bernier barely registerin­g, at 2 per cent. A full 25 per cent of Canadians were unsure of whom they preferred.

Bob Plamondon, an author who has written extensivel­y about Canadian conservati­ve politics, says “if you look at the polls, most people haven’t formed an impression of Andrew Scheer one way or the other.” Plamondon, who wrote a chronicle of successful Conservati­ve party leaders in his book Blue Thunder, says Scheer ought to take note of the lessons of history: there is not a great track record of party leaders losing an election and coming back to fight another one, unless the results are really close or another election seems around the corner.

Although Scheer says he is looking forward to a holiday break with his wife, Jill, and the kids in Regina, where they still keep a home near her parents’ place, he says he’s ready for the 10 months of hard campaignin­g that lie ahead.

Scheer says he’s happy to have a “strong” parliament­ary team to take the lead on files, and he’s in no rush to roll out platform details this far ahead of the election.

Scheer has been travelling more in the past few months, sharing meetings with party supporters via Instagram. He is also seeking out stakeholde­rs who he doesn’t count as supporters including, he points out, the Toronto Star, and the country’s largest private sector union, Unifor.

The Conservati­ve leader is pondering how to address con- cerns of media organizati­ons that he says are worried about the CBC’s government-subsidized news website sucking commercial ad revenue away, and about the flow of Canadian advertisin­g revenue to Google and Facebook.

Scheer flatly opposes what he calls Trudeau’s private sector “media bailout,” a package of taxation and other changes that he says “potentiall­y” could corrupt profession­al political journalist­s into providing more favourable coverage to the Liberals than he believes they already do.

Instead, Scheer is looking for possible solutions to the media revenue dilemma in Europe, where copyright agreements are aimed at ensuring a greater sharing of revenue between content creators and those who aggregate or simply repost original reporting.

Scheer asked to meet with Unifor president Jerry Dias, who represents many media workers and journalist­s. Some Conservati­ves were angered when Unifor Canada tweeted a photo of its national executive board that Dias says was a “parody” of Scheer’s pose with Conservati­ve premiers and Alberta party leader Jason Kenney on the cover of Macleans magazine, dubbed the “Resistance.”

Unifor tweeted a similar pose of its leaders, saying they were planning for the federal election: “Welcome to Andrew Scheer’s worst nightmare.”

Neither Scheer nor Dias will discuss what they said in private, but Dias said it was a “respectful” conversati­on.

“In retrospect,” said Dias, his own retweet should not have contained the hashtag “#stopscheer­stupidity.”

“It frankly wasn’t fair, and it was disrespect­ful when I didn’t need to be. I should have said “#scheernons­ense,” because the position they were taking was sheer nonsense,” the union leader said.

While Dias says he won’t be voting for Scheer, neither he nor the Conservati­ve leader are going anywhere, and need to deal with each other in a “respectful” way.

In fact, Dias said, they agree on the need to advance constructi­on of oil pipelines, on the need to keep GM’s Oshawa plant open and to ensure U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs against Canada are lifted.

But Dias believes the Conservati­ve Party lost a lot of support among unionized workers after the Stephen Harper government legislated restrictio­ns on organized labour.

“I’m not going to win ‘big labour,’ ” said Scheer, but he is convinced he can win back what Conservati­ve party strategist­s have often called the “bread-and-butter” labour vote.

He’ll certainly need that, and more besides.

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