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Seeking clarity, pope saw psychoanal­yst weekly years ago

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Pope Francis says that when he was 42 he had sessions weekly with a psychoanal­yst who was female and Jewish to “clarify some things.”

It wasn’t specified what the future pontiff wanted to explore. The revelation came in a dozen conversati­ons Francis had with French sociologis­t Dominique Wolton, writing a soon-to-be-published book.

La Stampa, an Italian daily, quoting from some of the conversati­ons on Friday, said Francis went to the analyst’s home. Francis was quoted as saying: “one

day, when she was about to die, she called me. Not to receive the

sacraments, since she was Jewish, but for a spiritual dialogue.”

“She was a good person. For six months she helped me a lot,” Francis said.

Francis then was a Jesuit official in his native Argentina ruled by military dictatorsh­ip.

In the conversati­ons with the French author, Francis speaks highly of the positive influence women have had on his life.

“Those whom I known helped me a lot when I needed to consult with them,” Francis is quoted his saying.

The 80-year-old pope also speaks of his state of mind now.

“I feel free. Sure, I’m in a cage here at the Vatican, but not spirituall­y. Nothing makes me afraid.”

What bothers him, he ventured, are people with straitjack­et point of views.

He singled out “rigid priests, who are afraid to communicat­e. It’s a form of fundamenta­lism. Whenever I run into a rigid person, especially if young, I tell myself that he’s sick.”

But Francis concludes that “in reality, they are persons looking for security.”

In past remarks, the pope has indicated he struggled with how to use authority in his first roles of leadership as a Jesuit.

The Catholic Church used to project a sense of mistrust regarding psychoanal­ysis. But over time, the diffidence seems diminished.

 ?? AP PHOTO ?? Pope Francis says that when he was 42 he had sessions weekly with a psychoanal­yst who was female and Jewish to “clarify some things.” It wasn’t specified what the future pontiff wanted to explore.
AP PHOTO Pope Francis says that when he was 42 he had sessions weekly with a psychoanal­yst who was female and Jewish to “clarify some things.” It wasn’t specified what the future pontiff wanted to explore.

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