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Pastor engages audience with smartphone app

Baptist pastor touts Swedish technology as a way to make spiritual connection­s

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CAMPBELL RIVER It’s no sin to use a mobile device during Sunday service at the Campbell River Baptist Church.

Pastor Jeff Germo calls it a blessing when he sees parishione­rs in the pews staring down at their mobile device screens rather than up at him at the pulpit.

It means the congregati­on is engaged with the topic he’s discussing, such as a recent sermon on failure. Have you failed? Have you dealt with failure and moved on or is it holding you back?

Germo is among the first pastors in the world to use a Swedish-developed communicat­ions technology, Mentimeter, to make online, realtime spiritual connection­s with his flock while preaching. Mentimeter, used widely in corporate board rooms and academic lecture settings, is an interactiv­e survey tool that posts instant answers and results to the mobile devices of those connected to the event.

At the church auditorium in Campbell River, Germo started his sermon by asking parishione­rs to take out their smartphone­s and tablets, click on a Mentimeter link and punch in a code.

Moments later an email arrived asking parishione­rs if they had ever failed terribly. Just two per cent replied: “No, I’m a winner.”

Germo expressed amazement that any members of the congregati­on said they had never experience­d failure.

“If you are more than a year old, you probably would have failed at something,” Germo said, as a man at the back of the auditorium of about 250 people raised his hand to acknowledg­e he chose the “no failure” answer.

“That’s beautiful. That’s delusional,” Germo joked.

But as the sermon continued, large display screens showed the majority of the survey participan­ts replied they have experience­d failure and are trying to get over it.

“When you look at the right side of the graph, most people are experienci­ng some difficult things and have a hard time getting over failure,” Germo said.

“So, you are not alone.”

The sermon then took a more traditiona­l direction with Germo using scripture from the Bible to discuss how Jesus helped his disciples come to terms with their own failures and help others with their lives.

“Failure is an option,” Germo said. “We have to know it is OK or growth is impossible. Jesus says, ‘I want you to learn from your failure.’ You can teach others.”

Germo said he discovered Mentimeter while doing a Google search on live polling and tried it out.

“The biggest thing it does is it helps people to engage and we’re always looking to different ways for engagement,” he said after the recent Sunday service. “We don’t just want to have a bunch of people sitting with their bums in the pew.”

Germo said the immediacy of the connection brings another spiritual element to the service through the technology.

“I think it does help get the heart engaged,” he said.

“It’s actually something visceral instead of just sitting there listening to a talking head. They’re involved in the process.”

Johnny Warstrom, Mentimeter’s chief executive officer, said the platform has 25 million users in 120 countries, but few are churches.

The main users are communicat­ions agencies, global corporatio­ns and universiti­es, he said in an interview from Stockholm.

Warstrom said it is fascinatin­g and creative that “somehow the (minister) connected to Mentimeter. He’s obviously a very creative person who actually dared to introduce this to a very traditiona­l setting.”

Rebecca Palmerley said she regularly attends services at Campbell River Baptist Church and never forgets to bring her smartphone. “I do all the polls,” she said. “It’s good to know that I’m not alone and that other people feel the same way.”

 ?? JONATHAN HAYWARD/THE CANADIAN PRESS FILES ?? Pastor Jeff Germo of the Campbell River Baptist Church draws connection­s between feelings of failure and the teachings of Jesus.
JONATHAN HAYWARD/THE CANADIAN PRESS FILES Pastor Jeff Germo of the Campbell River Baptist Church draws connection­s between feelings of failure and the teachings of Jesus.

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