Waterloo Region Record

Trump claims ‘right’ to pardon himself

But his team admits move would invite impeachmen­t

- JONATHAN LEMIRE AND CATHERINE LUCEY

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump asserted his presidenti­al power and escalated his efforts to discredit the special counsel Russia probe Monday, declaring he has the “absolute right” to pardon himself and attacking the investigat­ion as “totally UNCONSTITU­TIONAL!”

Trump’s comments on Twitter came a day after attorney Rudy Giuliani played down the possibilit­y that the president could pardon himself, suggesting he might have that authority but would be unwise to use it.

“Pardoning himself would be unthinkabl­e and probably lead to immediate impeachmen­t,” Giuliani, a member of Trump’s legal team, told NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “And he has no need to do it, he’s done nothing wrong.”

On Twitter Monday, Trump said: “As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?” He then again decried special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe as a “never ending Witch Hunt.”

Trump later added that the “appointmen­t of the Special Councel is totally UNCONSTITU­TIONAL! Despite that, we play the game because I, unlike the Democrats, have done nothing wrong!”

Trump’s legal team is making clear that it will combat any effort to force the president to testify in front of a grand jury. Giuliani on Sunday underscore­d one of the main arguments in a newly unveiled letter sent by Trump’s lawyers to Mueller back in January: A president can’t be given a grand jury subpoena as part of the investigat­ion into foreign meddling in the 2016 election.

But Giuliani, in a series of television interviews, broke with one of their bolder arguments in the letter that a president could not have committed obstructio­n of justice because he has ultimate authority over any federal investigat­ion.

Yet the former New York City mayor, who was not on the legal team when the letter was written, added that Trump “probably does” have the power to pardon himself, an assertion challenged by legal scholars. He says the president’s legal team hasn’t discussed that option, which many observers believe could plunge the nation into a constituti­onal crisis.

“I think the political ramificati­ons would be tough,” Giuliani told ABC’s “This Week.” “Pardoning other people is one thing, pardoning yourself is tough.”

Trump has issued two unrelated pardons in recent days and discussed others, a move that has been interprete­d as a possible signal to allies ensnared in the Russia probe.

The letter is dated Jan. 29 and addressed to Mueller from John Dowd, a Trump lawyer who has since resigned from the legal team. Mueller has requested an interview with the president to determine whether he had criminal intent to obstruct the investigat­ion into his associates’ possible links to Russia’s election interferen­ce.

Giuliani said Sunday that a decision about an interview would not be made until after Trump’s summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on June 12.

“I mean, we’re leaning toward not,” Giuliani told ABC.

In addition to the legal battles, Trump’s team and allies have waged a public-relations campaign against Mueller and the Justice Department to discredit the investigat­ion and soften the impact of the special counsel’s potential findings. Giuliani said last week that the special counsel probe may be an “entirely illegitima­te investigat­ion” and need to be curtailed because, in his estimation, it was based on inappropri­ately obtained informatio­n from an informant and Comey’s memos.

In reality, the FBI began a counter-intelligen­ce investigat­ion in July 2016 to determine if Trump campaign associates were co-ordinating with Russia to tip the election.

The investigat­ion was opened after the hacking of Democratic emails that intelligen­ce officials later formally attributed to Russia.

 ?? ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE PHOTO ?? President Donald Trump says he has an “absolute” right to pardon himself, but there is a pretty big loophole.
ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE PHOTO President Donald Trump says he has an “absolute” right to pardon himself, but there is a pretty big loophole.

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