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Leaked info was well known already: lobbyist

Shipyard details had gotten out, says source

- DAVID PUGLIESE Postmedia News dpugliese@postmedia.com Twitter.com/davidpugli­ese

Details of a 2015 cabinet meeting the RCMP suspect Vice Admiral Mark Norman leaked to a company were already known by a number of well-connected individual­s in Ottawa, says a retired defence industry lobbyist.

Norman was suspended from his job as second-incommand of the Canadian military more than a year ago after the RCMP alleged he tipped off Davie shipyards that the Liberal government was going to derail a project that involved the Quebec firm converting a commercial ship into a supply vessel.

But Norbert Cyr, a retired military officer who had been a lobbyist for a defence firm as well as working for the defence industry’s top associatio­n, says he and a number of others with no connection­s to Norman or Davie knew the details of the cabinet meeting shortly after it happened.

“Within hours of the cabinet meeting we all knew about it,” said Cyr, who is no longer involved in the defence industry. “Ottawa is a village and something like that gets around so fast. There are note-takers, there are officials, there are people who work on the agenda.”

Cyr, a former lieutenant colonel, has held a number of positions in the defence world. He was a senior military public affairs officer in the Canadian Forces who went on to become a lobbyist for Oerlikon Aerospace and a spokesman for the Canadian Defence Industries Associatio­n. Cyr later returned to the Canadian Forces and served as a spokesman for then chief of the defence staff Gen. Walter Natynczyk and later went to work at the Canadian embassy in Washington.

At the time he was provided with informatio­n about the outcome of the cabinet meeting he was retired from the Canadian Forces and no longer active in the defence industry.

But Cyr’s informatio­n, along with the RCMP’s acknowledg­ment in legal documents that it has identified another public servant who was allegedly involved in leaking details from the meeting, could prove damaging to the police force’s case against Norman.

Documents filed by the RCMP to obtain a warrant to search Norman’s Ottawa home also indicated a third individual, as yet unidentifi­ed, was providing inside informatio­n to Davie officials.

In examining the public release of documents related to the Norman case, Ontario Superior Court Justice Kevin Phillips earlier this year raised questions about the RCMP investigat­ion. He noted that for a case to stand against Norman, prosecutor­s will have to be prove the naval officer was the first in leaky Ottawa to have shared any cabinet confidence­s or other sensitive informatio­n.

Cyr said details that the Liberals were considerin­g delaying Davie’s naval supply ship had also been leaked to Ottawa-based defence industry representa­tives the day before the cabinet meeting was held on Nov. 19, 2015.

On that day documents show that Privy Council Office officials had a teleconfer­ence with Department of National Defence procuremen­t staff, asking them who, other than Davie, might be able to provide the navy with an interim supply ship.

Details of that meeting were widely shared. “There was buzz about it because the questions being asked by PCO — can it be delayed — resonated everywhere,” Cyr explained.

He didn’t identify his sources.

Cyr was also offered by his sources copies of the letters Irving and Seaspan shipyards sent to cabinet ministers complainin­g about the Davie project. He declined because he was no longer in the defence business and had no need for them.

Cyr said he found it strange that the RCMP have focused on Norman. He decided to approach Postmedia after it published an article raising questions about the Norman case Saturday.

Cabinet ministers decided Nov. 19, 2015 to delay the Davie ship project but the details leaked out and the resulting embarrassm­ent forced the Liberal government to back down on its plans.

The Liberals were furious about the leak and called in the RCMP, who eventually focused on Norman.

Norman wasn’t at the cabinet meeting. He was in Halifax at a security conference.

Norman was suspended from his job by Chief of the Defence Staff Gen. Jon Vance more than a year ago. The vice admiral has denied any wrongdoing and no charges have been laid against him.

 ?? SGT MATTHEW MCGREGOR / CANADIAN FORCES COMBAT CAMERA ?? A source says informatio­n RCMP allege Vice Admiral Mark Norman leaked was already known by insiders.
SGT MATTHEW MCGREGOR / CANADIAN FORCES COMBAT CAMERA A source says informatio­n RCMP allege Vice Admiral Mark Norman leaked was already known by insiders.

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