ChinAfrica

Changing Lives

Implementa­tion of the BRI projects has heralded positive changes in the lives of Tanzanian people

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Tanzania is an important Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) hub in Africa. It signed a BRI cooperatio­n memorandum with China in 2018. Bilateral exchanges have been on the rise since then. On the occasion of the 10th anniversar­y of the launch of the initiative, ChinAfrica sat down with Mbelwa Kairuki, Tanzanian ambassador to China, to hear his insights on the BRI, especially the changes brought by the BRI to the local people’s lives. Edited excerpts of the interview follow:

ChinAfrica: How did you get to really understand the value of the BRI for you? And what is the current understand­ing about the role it plays?

Mbelwa Kairuki: Tanzania signed a memorandum of cooperatio­n with China to implement the BRI, during my time as ambassador to China, in 2018. I’ve since witnessed increasing cooperatio­n in different areas between our two sides.

The BRI is a very successful internatio­nal cooperatio­n platform as it brings opportunit­ies for us to cooperate not only with China, but also with other countries that are a party to this great initiative. There are many achievemen­ts that have been recorded.

Among all those fields, there is tremendous achievemen­t in trade. I wouldn’t even go as far as 10 years back. In 2018 when we signed the agreement, the volume of trade between Tanzania and China was somewhere between $3.8 billion and $4 billion. In 2022, the volume of trade was $8.3 billion, more than doubled.

What does this mean? Look at the impact that this has made on the common people. Thanks to the BRI and China’s readiness to open the market, the women farmers in Mtwara and Lindi, which are in south Tanzania, have a stable market for their cashew. The farmers in Ruvuma have assured markets for soybean and avocado. The guys engaged in mining can sell their minerals in China. So the market opportunit­y directly impacts the common people. Eventually when people have assured market, their lives improve with the income.

HIGH LEVEL DIALOGUE

What specific tangible results can be attributed to the collaborat­ive projects between China and Tanzania, such as the Julius Nyerere Hydropower Station and the Dar es Salaam Port?

In the last 10 years, we have witnessed tremendous achievemen­t in infrastruc­ture cooperatio­n. Chinese enterprise­s have played important role in our infrastruc­ture developmen­t. We have upgraded the Port of Dar es Salaam, and it was done by the Chinese companies. We have upgraded the Mtwara and Tanga ports through Chinese enterprise­s. We have refurbishe­d the old metre gauge central railway line. It was done by

the Chinese, who are also helping to build a brand-new standard gauge railway line in phases.

These companies bring in technology, and also give us value-for-money services because of the kind of work that they’re doing. If we used other options, we would be paying more to realise such projects, which means we would have been able to do less with the limited resources we had. This cooperatio­n has enabled us to achieve what would have taken us more years to achieve. If the roads and bridges are built, the movement of people becomes easy. My grandmothe­r in Bukoba can grow coffee or vanilla or anything and bring to the market in Mwanza easily because the infrastruc­ture is there.

Another thing to emphasise with regard to infrastruc­ture is the fact that none of these projects I have mentioned that have happened in this 10-year period of the BRI were financed by the Chinese banks. All of them were funded by the government of Tanzania through our own sources or through loans from other financial institutio­ns. I’m emphasisin­g this because there is a notion that the BRI is a trap. The truth is, many countries, Tanzania included, have implemente­d projects using their own funds, using Chinese enterprise­s and Chinese technology. They provide us value-for-money services, and we are happy with it. The notion of “debt trap” is not correct as far as Tanzania is concerned. We think our cooperatio­n with China in infrastruc­ture has been beneficial.

Can we say that the narrative of “debt trap” has some hidden motives?

Definitely. There is a hidden motive. And for me, I’m not concerned with whoever is pushing that agenda. My concern is, for us who are benefittin­g from our cooperatio­n with China, if we start to doubt our cooperatio­n and think there could be truth in it, that is where the problem is. If you look at the borrowing by most of these African countries, China is not number one, number two or even number three lender. Most of these countries have debts from other financial institutio­ns and other countries, and nobody talks about those. We only talk about China. But the Chinese are different from others in that you can see there’s a road, there is a bridge. There are tangible changes, which make a difference in people’s lives.

You may argue in some cases that the project is overpriced, but overpriced as compared to what? Chinese companies compete for projects. I will give you an example. Once Tanzania was a beneficiar­y of the US’ Millennium Challenge Corp. (MCC). The US committed a substantia­l amount of money to support developmen­t of their bilateral partners. They gave us, I think, over $500 million to invest in infrastruc­ture developmen­t in Tanzania. And you know what? Through MCC, the contractor­s were selected on a competitiv­e basis and

get a better price. If we add value to the sunflower seeds, to sesame seeds, to different kinds of seeds within the country, we will be creating jobs and that will benefit our people.

In what ways has the BRI facilitate­d educationa­l and cultural exchanges between China and Tanzania, and what notable outcomes have emerged from these exchanges?

As I mentioned earlier on, we’ve benefitted a lot. In the last four years, more than 5,000 Tanzanians have undergone short-term training in different areas in China despite COVID-19. More than 725 received scholarshi­ps to pursue master’s and Ph.D. degrees in different fields. These people, after getting the education, went back home and are now contributi­ng to our national developmen­t. It has been very beneficial.

Now that China has opened up the borders, I see increased number of people coming back to study. So the BRI has been beneficial in the area of people-to-people exchanges, particular­ly in the area of education.

What challenges were encountere­d during the implementa­tion of these collaborat­ive projects, and how were they overcome to ensure successful outcomes? Definitely challenges are there. Some are related to the Chinese side. Some are related to our side. But the thing is we do have a mechanism to address the challenges, and we do it through consultati­ons, through exchange between our two sides. And we are guided by the four principles that President Xi put forward in 2013 – sincerity, affinity, real results and good faith. We have not reached a point where misunderst­andings could not be solved.

How has the partnershi­p between Tanzania and China evolved over time, and what future prospects for collaborat­ion and developmen­t are envisioned? First of all, let me say the future is bright, with plenty of opportunit­ies for us to cooperate. And what we need is to take stock of the achievemen­t that we have recorded, the challenges that we’ve faced and what needs to be done.

The beauty of it all is the fact that we do have platforms to guide our cooperatio­n. The Forum on China-Africa Cooperatio­n (FOCAC) is a very important mechanism for cooperatio­n. And FOCAC is evolving. It depends on the situation of the day. In 2018, our biggest challenge was trade. Africa was not selling enough, and the little that we were selling was mineral resources, oil and so on. That’s why China came up with the initiative to establish the China-Africa Economic and Trade Expo (CAETE). The idea behind CAETE is to give opportunit­y for Africans to showcase what they have so that the Chinese may have understand­ing and they may buy.

Then we realised we needed to also focus on cooperatio­n in science and technology. I think we have not given much weight to our cooperatio­n in science and technology. And actually the bottleneck­s in our trade could be removed through cooperatio­n in science and technology. We are selling little to China because we are producing little. Now producing little can’t be solved by showcasing the little we have. It can be solved by cooperatin­g in the area of science and technology to produce more.

 ?? (CNS) ?? O$cials and technician­s in the fields of fishery and aquacultur­e from Asian and African countries, including Tanzania, visit a tilapia breeding facility in Maoming, Guangdong Province in south China, on 16 August 2019
(CNS) O$cials and technician­s in the fields of fishery and aquacultur­e from Asian and African countries, including Tanzania, visit a tilapia breeding facility in Maoming, Guangdong Province in south China, on 16 August 2019
 ?? (CNS) ?? Photo taken on 28 February 2020 shows the Port of Dar es Salaam in Tanzania being upgraded by a Chinese company
(CNS) Photo taken on 28 February 2020 shows the Port of Dar es Salaam in Tanzania being upgraded by a Chinese company

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