Global Times

Market fluctuatio­ns normal part of China’s transition

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Editor’s Note:

Sagging mainland stocks, along with a bond correction and yuan weakness have led to concerns over the health of China’s financial market amid lingering trade rows with the US. In an exclusive interview with the Global Times (GT) on Monday, Li Yang (Li), director-general of the National Institutio­n for Finance and Developmen­t (NIFD) with the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, discussed the nation’s financial conditions and possible ways to cope with the problems facing the world’s second-largest economy. GT: There have recently been some fluctuatio­ns in the domestic stock, bond and foreign exchange markets, drawing attention from both the regulatory authoritie­s and normal people. How should such fluctuatio­ns be viewed? Li: China’s current market developmen­ts need to be seen as part of a long-term process. Otherwise, we can’t see the forest for the trees.

Since 2008, the biggest change in China’s economic developmen­t has been a shift from high-speed growth toward medium-to-high-speed growth, or a transition toward a new normal. After the 19th Party Congress, the shift was summarized as the nation’s transition toward a stage of high-quality developmen­t. Our observatio­ns of all problems, especially financial issues, must be based on this big picture.

A number of problems that have piled up in China’s financial system amid the rapid economic growth of the last 30 years are now being laid bare. While fast economic expansion comes with an even quicker financial expansion, a slowdown in economic growth tends to be accompanie­d by a more conspicuou­s contractio­n in the financial sector. This suggests that we should not only be resolute about squeezing bubbles, but should also be highly vigilant toward the problems that can come.

Still, I want to point out that the current problems have been anticipate­d by the government. A series of risk management measures have been taken over the last few years and some of the measures have yielded initial results. The market situations have largely been within expectatio­ns. Therefore, so long as there are no market abnormalit­ies, we should be able to respond in a swift and timely manner. GT: Will China experience financial panic? If this happens, how could China cope with it? Li: A typical example of financial panic is like what happened in 2008 following the collapse of Lehman Brothers. Right now, the problem with Chinese financial markets is not that serious. But if there are signs of such panic, China should respond quickly.

The problems are partly a result of the ongoing financial reforms. For example, since the beginning of the year, China has seen a surge in bond defaults, which not only involve State-owned enterprise­s but also private firms, listed firms and local government debts.

But this trend should not be changed. Market players should allow their credit and risks to be visible to the market and let investors decide. Only in this way can China’s bond market grow healthily. So we should not make a fuss over the problems seen in the bond market.

Of course, there will be some pain in this process, so we need to create a good environmen­t with a sound legal framework and the right macroecono­mic conditions. Policymake­rs need to communicat­e adequately with the market and continue with the reforms. Over the past few weeks, the central bank has taken a series of measures such as targeted cuts in the reserve requiremen­t ratio and massive reverse repos to release liquidity.

The problems in China’s financial system are far from being as grave as during the financial crisis in 2008. As long as Chinese policymake­rs can communicat­e well with the market, no financial panic will occur. GT: What is the best way to balance the intensity and the pace of deleveragi­ng in China? Li: In the past few years, especially in the real estate sector and stock market, excessive use of leverage has become a prominent problem, so we need to deleverage. The problem is that the economy is made up of different department­s, and the ability of each department to deleverage is different, so it can’t be the same across the board. That’s where arrangemen­ts for structural de-leveraging come in.

We need to avoid excessive government debt and be cautious about high debt levels at companies. Our research shows that the overall debt and leverage ratio in the Chinese economy is relatively low compared to other major economies, but there is relatively high leverage among Chinese companies, which is a significan­t problem.

Therefore, in terms of structural de-leveraging, our top priority is companies and the key is to focus on State-owned enterprise­s (SOEs). The core issue for deleveragi­ng at SOEs is to deal with zombie firms, which are essentiall­y nonperform­ing assets.

Another problem is related to the government, especially local government­s. Addressing this problem is very complicate­d because it involves the relationsh­ip between the government and the market. So to fully address the debt issue for local government­s, we need to deepen our systematic reform. GT: Recently, China-US trade friction has become the main external risk factor to worry the market. How do you view the problems in China-US trade? Li: The trade friction has been more noticeable this year, but it comes with history. China has long been viewed as heterodox by Western countries and was put on the embargo list for high-tech and military products after World War II.

The US has also been complainin­g about its trade deficit for a long time. In fact, the deficit could easily be mitigated if the US were to alter its trade policy and allow China to purchase US hightech products. Instead, the US has been pointing fingers at China. The reasons for this are complicate­d and beyond the realm of economics.

What is happening right now is a continuati­on of history, and it is based partly on adjustment­s in the global governance mechanism. China believes the world can achieve multilater­al win-win progress. The Belt and Road initiative is based on this belief. It connects emerging markets and developing countries that have been neglected by the globalizat­ion path led by developed countries such as the US. So it is a new developmen­t path and governance model, and the trade friction has come because this is seen as a challenge to the old version. GT: China’s equity market has opened up further to foreign capital this year. Some are worried about the risks in this process. What do you think of it? Li: I believe the opening-up process will be faster than ever. We focus too much on issues like whether foreign capital will take control. In an open world, if an economic entity malfunctio­ns, the foreign capital within it can be like an anchor. SOEs have millions of ways to avoid risks and save themselves. But foreign capital counts on economic stability to thrive and develop.

It is time to abandon the concerns about foreign capital. Opening the equity market is nothing more than giving foreign capital access to yuandenomi­nated financial assets. Whether the opening-up is a risk or a benefit depends on the developmen­t stage of the market mechanism.

We should fine-tune the market, stabilize the policies, and improve the legal framework. This will allow foreign capital to benefit the Chinese economy to the greatest degree.

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