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Is there a way forward for Sino-Aussie ties?

- Page Editor: wangwenwen@globaltime­s.com.cn

Editor's Note:

Amid mounting tensions between China and Australia, Allan Behm (Behm), head of the Internatio­nal and Security Affairs program at The Australia Institute, Canberra, recently published a paper contending the tensions between the two countries were largely caused by Australia’s lack of understand­ing of China. Compared with ever growing strident rhetoric from Australian media outlets and politician­s, Behm’s view pointed to both a reason and a solution. Why are the number of Australia’s experts and their knowledge of China far from sufficient? What are the difference­s between China-Australia relations and China-US relations? Will Beijing-Canberra ties continue to worsen or rebound after bottoming out? Behm shared his insights with Global Times (GT) reporter Li Aixin in a written interview.

GT: What drove you to write the paper “How Good is the Australia-China Relationsh­ip?”

Behm: I am worried by the strident tone that has begun to dominate the public exchanges between China and Australia. I am concerned that some of China’s recent actions may not have been in its best interests, or in the best interests of China’s neighbors, or in Australia’s best interests.

Equally, I am concerned that some of Australia’s actions, such as the response to the outbreak of the coronaviru­s, may not have been in Australia’s best interests, or in China’s best interests, or in the best interests of the global community.

There are many things that Australia and China can do to our mutual advantage. The relationsh­ip is much more than minerals and energy exports to China, and the import of manufactur­ed goods from China. People-to-people exchanges are critical, both ways. Students from China are very welcome in our universiti­es, just as tourists from China are very welcome in our cities and resorts.

But it must be both ways: Australia needs to understand much more about China.

The so-called hawks take a narrow view of China. They are more driven by fear of China than by confidence in our ability to realize the opportunit­ies that China and Australia could achieve. Thoughtful Australian­s agree with Madam Fu Ying, China’s former ambassador to Australia: We need humility and tolerance, and adhere to communicat­ion, learning and openness.

GT: Do you think the Australian government and think tanks will address the issue (of not having sufficient knowledge and understand­ing of China)? Behm: I am confident that Australian universiti­es and think tanks understand that Australia’s collective knowledge and understand­ing of China is small. As a nation, Australia needs to invest in language, cultural and political studies of China. If we are unable to speak to each other, we cannot understand each other. I am confident that both sides will step back from the heated exchanges of the past few months and pursue a conversati­on that is calmer and more considered.

GT: During your recent interview with The New Daily, you said there are only 20 academics and think tanks in Australia with expertise on China, which is far from enough. There is a large number of Chinese living and working in Australia. Why haven’t think tanks and the government found more people and resources to get to know China better? Behm: Australian­s live, think and work mainly in the Anglospher­e. While Australia is becoming a more multi-cultural, multi-ethnic and multi-racial society, most of Australia’s business, political and public service leaders speak only English. They do not see a need to be able to speak the languages of Asia. But language is the principal window into culture: If we cannot speak Mandarin [Putonghua], for instance, we cannot understand China’s political and social culture. Young people of Chinese heritage are not yet in leadership positions. But when they are, this lack of knowledge will change.

Australian­s have been slow to appreciate that the world is changing rapidly, and that we must invest more in learning about the cultures of Asia. Successive Australian government­s have recognized that they need to invest more in Asian languages, economic and political studies, but have not allocated adequate funding priorities to do so.

GT: In your view, what role has the US played in China-Australia ties?

Behm: When China’s premier Zhou Enlai and Australia’s about-to-be prime minister Gough Whitlam first met in 1972, they discussed Australia’s security relationsh­ip with the US. That was a product of cultural and historical relationsh­ips dating back to the beginning of the 20th century and strengthen­ed through two world wars. Both sides accepted that Australia looked to the US to guarantee its security in circumstan­ces of a breakdown in the global strategic order.

Australia continues to look to the US as its security partner. Accordingl­y, Australia consults with the US on a broad range of economic, political and security matters. So Australia listens to US views even when the rhetoric between the US and China is heated, as it has been under the Trump administra­tion.

It is fair to suggest that US concerns about China have influenced Australia’s policy in recent months, especially since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic. But it is also fair to note that Australia often pursues a different approach from the US, as it did in joining the China-initiated Asian Infrastruc­ture Investment Bank, and as it did in advocating for China’s membership of the Trans-Pacific Partnershi­p when President Trump decided to withdraw from the agreement.

GT: What do you think are the major difference­s between China-Australia relations and China-US relations? What do you think is now the biggest challenge in the developmen­t of ChinaAustr­alia ties?

Behm: There are many difference­s between Australia’s relationsh­ips with China and the US. We have a new and emerging relationsh­ip with China, while we have an old and settled relationsh­ip with the US. Our relationsh­ip with China focuses on economic and trade relations, while our relationsh­ip with the US includes cultural affinities, constituti­onal and legal similariti­es, long-standing academic exchanges, political dialogue and extensive security relationsh­ips – in addition to a long-standing economic and investment relationsh­ip.

In short, Australia’s relationsh­ip with China, at this stage of its developmen­t, is significan­tly less complex and multifacet­ed than our relationsh­ip with the US.

The biggest obstacle to the developmen­t of China-Australia ties now is the sharp decline in trust, which in turn is based on respect. It is imperative that China and Australia restore that respect and trust.

President Xi Jinping has visited Australia five times. During his last visit, five years ago, he said: “The ocean is vast because it admits numerous rivers. It is the steady stream of mutual understand­ing and friendship between our two peoples that have created the vast ocean of goodwill between China and Australia.”

That’s what we must restore, and to that end it would be very important that the Australian prime minister visits Beijing to renew both communicat­ion and confidence.

GT: Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said on July 1 that Australia will spend roughly $186 billion over the next 10 years on high-tech defense programs focused on the Indo-Pacific region. Some Australian media outlets have suggested that China is the unspoken threat at the center of this new defense strategy. Can you comment on Australia’s new defense strategy against the current backdrop? How do you view Australian media’s analysis of a “China threat?”

Behm: Prime Minister Morrison’s defense spending announceme­nt, coinciding with current instabilit­y in the Australia-China relationsh­ip, reflects his government’s current political preoccupat­ions. But it is important to distinguis­h between the rhetoric and the substance. While the prime minister’s speech used some colorful language, the force structure he announced, and the strategic posture it reflects, is essentiall­y defensive and reactive. It does not substantia­lly change the spending trendline that has been the policy of several government­s, nor afford Australia the ability to wage war. The planned acquisitio­n of 12 French submarines, for instance, was announced by prime minister Malcolm Turnbull’s government, and the replacemen­t of the Harpoon missile has been in the pipeline for some time.

GT: You mentioned that over the past couple of years the relationsh­ip between the two countries has fallen to its lowest point. What do you think will happen next with bilateral relations? Will they continue to worsen or rebound after bottoming out? Under what circumstan­ces do you think bilateral ties could be relaxed?

Behm: It is difficult to imagine that the China-Australia relationsh­ip could become any worse at the political level. It will remain broken until our leaders take a decision to repair it. That is why it would be a good initiative if Prime Minister Morrison were to visit President Xi Jinping.

At the economic level, Chinese and Australian business leaders need to ensure that we continue build the economic relationsh­ip to the benefit of both parties, especially as we seek to return to economic growth and prosperity as we emerge from the pandemic. And our long-standing scientific links should assist both parties to address the causes, consequenc­es and best management practice relating to COVID-19.

As President Xi Jinping said in the Australian Parliament in 2014, China and Australia will continue to have difference­s. But we should now focus on the things we have in common, and the things on which we can collaborat­e.

The world faces three existentia­l threats to humanity: climate change; nuclear weapons; and pandemics. These require urgent attention. China and Australia, working together, can make an enormous difference in these fields, both to our mutual advantage and to the advantage of the entire global community.

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