Armenian PM sees new impetus in regional dynamics
Nikol Pashinyan talks about `Crossroads of Peace' project, aimed at removing infrastructure blockades and improving relations between neighbors
visit by Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan to Athens and the subsequent visit by Greek Defense Minister Nikos Dendias to Yerevan comes as a result of the boost in bilateral relations, while diplomatic circles stress that the strengthening of cooperation between the two countries affects the wider regional dynamics.
In an exclusive interview with Kathimerini, Pashinyan expressed gratitude to the Greek people for their concrete support during the war in Nagorno-Karabakh, while praising the importance of expanding military-technical cooperation, which is limited to the level of knowledge exchange and joint projects.
Pashinyan also discusses the commercial interconnection of the Caspian and Black Sea with the Mediterranean and the Persian Gulf, a project that has been named “Crossroads of Peace,” while declaring Armenia's intention to lift border restrictions with Turkey and consolidate his country's cooperation with the EU.
– In your meeting with Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, you highlighted the “Crossroads of Peace” project. How would the plan promote regional stability and security in the Caucasus and the Mediterranean?
The contribution to the establishment of lasting peace and stability in the South Caucasus is a top priority for the Republic of Armenia. In the process of the desired change, Armenia stresses the need to remove the blockade of infrastructure in the region. The “Crossroads of Peace” project includes a significant increase in the capacity to transport goods, cars, electricity transmission lines, and internet cables between the Black Sea on the one hand and the Persian Gulf as well as the Gulf of Oman on the other, passing through the territories of Armenia. The project also envisages the creation of a rail link between the abovementioned final destinations, which is possible if Armenia-Azerbaijan relations are normalized. It should be remembered that the optimal railway route from Georgia entering Armenia and continuing to the Islamic Republic of Iran passes through Nakhchivan, Azerbaijan. This is the north-south wing of the “Crossroads of Peace.”
Still, there is the east-west wing, which can connect the Caspian Sea to the Mediterranean Sea, as well as the Turkish Black Sea ports through the territory of Armenia. For this, highways, railways, pipelines, power transmission lines, and cables must enter Turkey from Azerbaijan through Armenia. And we are ready to provide such solutions.
So, for the operation of all these infrastructures we have adopted the commonly accepted principles in the “Crossroads of Peace” project.
– With regional risks and threats on the rise, what does the defense memorandum you signed with your counterpart signify?
Since the early years of the independence of the Republic of Armenia, the Armenian people have always enjoyed the support of Greece. I take this opportunity, once again, to express my gratitude to the Greek people and the Greek government for standing by us and supporting us in difficult times.
There is a long tradition of cooperation in the defense sector. In December last year (2023), the military-technical cooperation agreement between the two governments was signed, which
entails the exchange of experience, knowledge and the development of joint projects. Many Armenian cadets have the opportunity to study in Greek educational institutions. Despite the excellent cooperation in the defense sector, there is great potential for further development. In the near future, we hope that cooperation in this direction will be expanded.
I should mention that Armenia's cooperation with its partners in the defense sector is not directed against any country. The development of Armenia's defense capabilities is aimed at protecting Armenia's independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity, and guarding its borders.
– The recent signing of the “Declaration on friendly relations and good-neighborliness” between Greece and Turkey has reduced the
tension between the two countries. As Turkey's eastern neighbor, have you noticed a decrease in regional tensions and in inflammatory statements?
Turkey is a regional player and it is natural to expect that it should have a balanced position on the various developments in the region. No less attention is paid to Turkey's official rhetoric, which can both promote and jeopardize the processes. On the other hand, Armenia expects that Turkey's rhetoric will not be aimed at increasing regional tensions, but will contribute to promoting dialogue and cooperation in the region.
As you know, Armenia and Turkey have started the process of normalization of relations, which is aimed at establishing diplomatic relations between the countries and the full opening of borders. In the framework of this process, an agreement was reached on the opening of the Armenian-Turkish land borders for citizens of third countries and persons with diplomatic passports. So, we really believe that the implementation of this agreement will have a positive impact on regional dynamics as well.
I have to say that the developments between Greece and Turkey prove once again that it is possible to overcome differences and form a mutually beneficial agenda of cooperation between the neighbors.
– Armenia recently froze its participation in the Russian Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), while Russia's soft stance on the Azeri attack has raised concerns among your citizens. Given these facts, are you willing to adopt a more Western approach to international politics?
The Collective Security Treaty Organization, in our assessment, has not fulfilled its security obligations to the Republic of Armenia, specifically in the period 2021-2022. The practical result is that we have effectively frozen our participation in the organization.
Armenia is open to establishing and developing mutually beneficial relations with all partners and has a clear position on the establishment of stable and lasting peace in the region. To this end, we are diversifying our relations on security issues.
– The Armenian community in Greece has more than 30,000 members, many of whom excel in the arts, academia and even engage in politics. What initiatives are being considered to enhance people-to-people exchanges and cultural cooperation between Armenia and Greece?
You are right. Both the Armenian community living in Greece and the Greek community living in Armenia are an important factor in strengthening our bilateral relations. It is important that the existing strong historical relations are strengthened by the contacts of the new generations of Armenians and Greeks, and we must take steps to create opportunities for mutual recognition. In this regard, I would like to stress the importance of both tourism, which is perhaps the best opportunity to strengthen people-to-people relations, and joint scientific and educational programs. In the near future, it is planned to sign a new program of bilateral cooperation in the field of education, which will provide new opportunities for student-faculty exchanges. Recently, a cooperation agreement was signed between the Armenian government and the Democritus University of Thrace, where the Armenian Language and Culture Center will operate. In the near future, a number of other joint initiatives in the scientific and cultural fields are planned, which will contribute to the strengthening of bilateral cultural relations.
Of course, in order to intensify people-to-people contact, it is necessary that negotiations on the liberalization of the visa regime with EU countries be successful. Armenia has been ready to implement this process for a long time.
'I take this opportunity, once again, to express my gratitude to the Greek people and the Greek government for standing by us and supporting us in difficult times'
– How do you envision the future development of bilateral relations between Armenia and Greece and what is your message to the Greek people?
Relations between Armenia and Greece are based on a shared history and long-standing friendship, as well as a commitment to common values. It is in this context that we are also considering further development of bilateral relations. Armenia believes in improving democratic institutions, while we are also trying to develop our cooperation with European institutions. In this direction, Greece's experience and support are very important to us. So, I believe that the deepening of bilateral relations in all directions will prepare the ground for the development of close cooperation between Armenia and Greece to a higher strategic level.