Hindustan Times (Bathinda)

Top court needs to be protected, assessed: Justice Chelameswa­r

Says the ‘extraordin­ary’ Jan 12 presser, where 4 judges came together to criticise the Chief Justice, was to inform the nation about what was wrong in the apex court

- Ashok Bagriya and Bhadra Sinha letters@hindustant­imes.com

› I would prefer a judge with some political ideology to a judge who keeps changing his ideology with time

JUSTICE JASTI CHELAMESWA­R

NEW DELHI: Jasti Chelameswa­r, who retired as a Supreme Court judge on Friday, has no regrets about holding a press conference – unpreceden­ted for a judge of the top court – along with three of his fellow judges on January 12, airing grievances over the way Chief Justice of India Dipak Misra was allocating cases and administer­ing the court.

The judges had tried to “set things right”, he said in an inter- view, and when nothing worked, decided “to inform the nation”. Chelameswa­r seemed to suggest that nothing had changed, but admitted that the press conference “created awareness” about the goings-on in the court and how the Supreme Court too needs to be “protected” and its activities be “assessed periodical­ly”.

NEW DELHI: Friday was the last day in office of a man who has become, arguably, India’s most controvers­ial Supreme Court judge. Jasti Chelameswa­r, 64 (he turns 65 on Saturday, June 23), was the only judge to dissent when the Supreme Court scrapped the government’s National Judicial Appointmen­ts Commission (NJAC) law, which replaced the older system of a collegium of judges appointing judges to the higher judiciary with a commission. He was also one of the four judges who, earlier this year, took on Chief Justice of India (CJI) Dipak Misra for what they saw as inadequaci­es in the way he was administer­ing the court and allocating cases. In an interview with Hindustan Times’s Ashok Bagriya and Bhadra Sinha, Chelameswa­r pulled no punches, and spoke of issues from nepotism, the chief justice’s office, and the role of the government. Edited excerpts:

You have been a judge for 21 years. June 22 is your last day as a judge. When you look back, how do you see your term as a judge and what cases have been close to you?

During the last 21 years, a lot of events took place and some of them did touch me, in the sense that I had to deal with the legal implicatio­ns of those events as a judge. (The) NJAC case (did) for more than one reason — it will stay with me always — and its become a component of me as a judge. People will always refer to me as a dissenting judge. Apart from public perception, there is one important case that I dealt with — I had the opportunit­y to deal with the validity of a constituti­onal amendment (NJAC case ). I take pride in the fact that of the 240 judges in the Supreme Court since its inception, only 50 have dealt with an issue like this and I am one of them.

You will also be remembered because on January 12, you, along with three other top judges of the court, took an unpreceden­ted step. You called a press conference; that has never happened in the history of Indian judiciary. What triggered the event?

There were a lot of things which, according to us, were not right in the Supreme Court and not in the interest of the people of this country. We made our attempts to set the things right according to our perception of what is wrong and what is right in that context. Since we concluded that we were not able to set the things right, we decide to inform the nation. We didn’t want anybody to blame us a decade or two later that these fellows did not discharge their duties. After the press conference, we became rebels and were even branded as a gang of four. The press conference was called extraordin­ary; yes, it was extraordin­ary. In retrospect also, I think what we did on January 12 was right.

Have things changed in the Supreme Court after the press conference?

There was an undertone in our press conference that consultati­ve process in matters affecting the judiciary were not taking place and it is for the people to see and judge if things have changed after it or not.

Has the extraordin­ary press conference achieved the results that it intended?

The press conference has not achieved, in the complete sense, the result it should have, but it certainly has created awareness in this country that this institutio­n is also required to be protected and its activities should be assessed periodical­ly. That awareness is certainly there today.

The press conference has been criticised as a break from tradition and also a violation of guidelines for judicial conduct. What do you have to say on it?

A lot of unpreceden­ted things have happened in the Supreme Court in the recent past but they have never been criticised. Tell me, has there been any precedent in the history of this court that a constituti­on bench was constitute­d at 3:30 in the afternoon, with seven judges and, afterwards, two chairs were removed from the court and only five judges sat? And all those who question the press conference, why do they not ask if what happened then? Wasn’t it unpreceden­ted? (In the Prasad Medical College case, where allegation­s of corruption were levelled against judges and a bench led by Justice Chelameswa­r ordered setname

ting up of a five-judge bench to look into the allegation­s. But within hours, the Chief Justice of India set up another bench and overturned the order of the two-judge bench, saying the Chief Justice of India had the sole prerogativ­e of setting up a bench and allocating matters. According to Chelameswa­r, this bench set up by the Chief Justice of India initially had seven judges, which then became five).

In the press conference, it was pointed out by you and the other judges that all is not well in the Supreme Court and particular­ly with the office of the Chief Justice of India. Do you think that the time has come to take a relook at the office of the Chief Justice of India in terms of the powers it has?

It’s not the question of the office of the Chief Justice of India, every public office in a democratic society and every

holder of public office is subject to intense public scrutiny. Day in and day out, the civil society and press talk about the performanc­e of ministers, governors and sometimes in not very compliment­ary terms. Even judges are public office holders and they perform to their strengths and their prejudices. They ought to be subject to public scrutiny as well. In a democracy, no public office holder is beyond scrutiny.

The Supreme Court is generally criticised for adopting a nontranspa­rent procedure in the appointmen­t of judges. What is your take on the issue?

We are not adopting a fair, rational and transparen­t procedure in appointing judges. In the context of the appointmen­t of Supreme Court/high court judges, Parliament made an attempt to change it; the attempt failed. The point is that the old system is the law now, but even that system is required to function in the interest of the people of this country and anything that is not rational and transparen­t is not in the interest of the people of this country. When you choose a person as a judge, you need to see a certain procedure has to be followed. Is the selection process as rational as it should be? Are we adopting a procedure that is transparen­t?

The government of India first sat on the recommenda­tion of elevation of Justice KM Joseph as a judge of the Supreme Court and then months later sent back the file asking the collegium to reconsider the appointmen­t. Do you think that the government is sabotaging the appointmen­t?

I don’t want to comment on the appointmen­t of Justice Joseph as the matter is under considerat­ion, my opinion on the matter is on record. But on the issue of the government sitting on recommenda­tions of the collegium, every government has done it. These things have always happened.

How should decisionma­king happen in the Supreme Court?

The idea of collegium, a multimembe­r body, was mooted 20 years back. The idea of consultati­ve process is inherent and that is democracy. Why not have a Prime Minister alone? Why (is there) a Cabinet? Because the constituti­on framers in their wisdom believed that in a democratic system, plurality of opinions and interactio­n of minds will yield greater wisdom. Why is the same principle not incorporat­ed in the context of the consultati­on of the Chief Justice of India? In fact, it was Justice (PN) Bhagwati who wrote for the first time, saying that there is no guarantee that the Chief Justice of India will always protect the institutio­n. If I say this, immediatel­y somebody will interpret it as a personal feud between me and Justice (Dipak) Misra (the current Chief Justice). Bhagwati wrote this even before I and Justice Misra were born in the judiciary. I wrote to the former Chief Justice of India (Justice Thakur) expressing my dissent at the non–transparen­t manner of the functionin­g of the collegium, but not much has changed since then.

Should the outgoing Chief Justice of India have a singular say in the appointmen­t of a new Chief Justice of India or should there be some check and balance on him?

The outgoing CJI should have the power to recommend the of the new chief justice, but exercise the power bona fide — he/she has to give reasons. The tradition is that the seniormost is recommende­d as the new CJI, but for any reason, if the CJI departs from the tradition, he/she should have the freedom to do so provided he/she records his/her reasons (saying), “For this reason I consider the seniormost judge as unfit to become the CJI.” There is nothing wrong in the CJI recommendi­ng the name, somebody has to do it.

A few years back, a former chief justice said that judges must be shielded from the lure of postretire­ment government jobs. Do you think that there should be some coolingoff period for judges before they accept a postretire­ment job?

The accusation that government­s dangle post-retirement jobs in tribunals and other offices to judges and subtly manoeuvre the courts has always been made and it needs to be guarded against. It is for the public to decide if a particular appointmen­t is made on genuine assessment of the person’s suitabilit­y or for certain extraneous reasons of the government. I can talk for myself that I have decided not take any post-retirement job.

Please share your views on the charges of nepotism in the judiciary, in the sense that there is a general perception that sons and daughters or relatives of judges stand a better chance of becoming judges.

In some cases, people who are related to former judges reach the high court or the Supreme Court, that by itself does not indicate anything is wrong. If a judge’s son or daughter is suitable and otherwise competent, why should he/she not become a judge? Should he/she be barred merely because his/her father was a judge ? The question is, “Is the person being made a judge because of his/ her abilities or for being related to a judge?” There have been cases both ways. In some case, it’s only because of the relationsh­ip that it happened and in more cases these are outstandin­g people (who are being appointed).

Is it okay to have judges in the Supreme Court who have a political ideology ?

I would prefer a judge with some political ideology to a judge who keeps changing his ideology with time. At least you know what the ideology of the judge is.

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