Hindustan Times (Delhi)

‘Odisha and Bengal will be two pillars of 2019’

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STRATEGY Asserts that the BJP has faced opposition alliances during elections in the past as well; says the government will take a comprehens­ive view to the looming sanctions from the US

NEWDELHI: Union minister Dharmendra Pradhan is a key player in the government, handling the portfolios of petroleum and natural gas and skill developmen­t and entreprene­urship, and the Bharatiya Janata Party, as its face in Odisha. He spoke to

and on the Iran sanctions, oil prices, Odisha, and the 2019 Lok Sabha elections. Edited excerpts:

Gupta Shishir Prashant Jha

There cannot be a long-term pricing deal. Forget crude oil. For any commodity, prices cannot be fixed. Even longterm contracts have been renegotiat­ed, because market requiremen­t is one aspect, but there are other factors like innovation, technology and geopolitic­s. You cannot lock it within a long-term price assurance mechanism. What we consider low today may appear expensive with time. We had done a long-term contract with Qatar at one point, and thought it is a good price; in some time, it seemed like too expensive and we renegotiat­ed it.

The issue is that we are dependent because we are an oil-importing country. What can we do to reduce our dependence? That is why, under Narendra Modi’s leadership, we are slowly becoming a mega-power in solar power. We are looking at domestic production; alternativ­es beyond solar; a gas-based economy; renewables; biomass; increasing conservati­on and efficiency. This is a holistic approach.

Transporta­tion fuel is an internatio­nal commodity; it will fluctuate with geopolitic­s. India has succeeded in influencin­g it. PM Modi consistent­ly has said on global platforms that India is a big consumer, and those who want to do business here must take into considerat­ion our affordabil­ity. This has had a positive impact on producer countries. We have wanted for a long time that Asian premium should be revisited.

When I first raised it four years ago, people made fun of us. But now, there are reports of UAE and Saudi coming up with a new formula. This is because of our market capacity and size. Why should we pay Asian Premium? We are the third-largest consumer; our per capita energy consumptio­n is among the lowest; it is the lowest among emerging economies and this means our energy consumptio­n will only increase. Those who want to deal with us have to consider affordabil­ity. This is about market fundamenta­ls. PM Modi has firmly, tactfully, diplomatic­ally, successful­ly taken this up. An achievemen­t of a global leader is if you can get your voice heard on hard economic issues. The reduction of price benefits poor across the world.

We already have $2 billion trade on gas. We will get 5.6 MMT gas from the US. They have cheap gas. We even got shale oil. India can get energy from anywhere in the world. There is only one condition – price competitiv­eness. Our sourcing basket has got diverse. The appreciati­on of the dollar leads to pressure on the price. When the price of crude oil increases by a dollar, it increases by 50 paisa or so in our prices. When our currency gets weaker, then it has an impact of 65-70 paisa. It has a double impact. And both coincided this time.

It will and it should because market pressure is developing. There is a paradigm shift. The monopoly of producers is over; the voice of buyers is emerging. Earlier, there were no options. There are also alternativ­e sources which we can tap through technology. In October, we reduced excise by ₹2. Those who were criticisin­g us, see what they did in Karnataka. Did they tweet? Where is the fuel challenge now? There is a limit to hypocrisy. It is the character of this government that we will not take a decision under pressure, and keep in mind larger public interest. When prices were increasing, even if we had reduced excise, it would have got washed out; the prices would have increased again. Timing and calculatio­n are important. We instead told producers why are you increasing it, why are you taking it to 80? I went and told OPEC that we are pained by your pricing mechanism; it is not only pinching, we are pained. When a big consumer says it, OPEC had to think about it. They had to increase production by a million barrel a day. People acknowledg­ed PM Modi’s appeal and praised him. Yes, but we have our own strategies. PM Modi has become a reasonable voice of the deprived of the world. This fact is wrong. On an average in a household, the consumptio­n is seven cylinders. There are four-and-a-half crore beneficiar­ies of Ujjwala. In the first year, 80% of the consumer base refilled. And the average refill is four LPG cylinders. This is a serious quantum jump for those who could not afford gas at all, and got it with government handholdin­g. On MYLPG, you can actually track the refilling, too. When Amit Shah took over as the party president in August 2014, in his first presidenti­al address, he said this. When we recently won elections, he said our victory will be complete when we form government­s on the Coromandel coast. PM Modi has been saying since his campaign back in 2013 that till East India develops, we cannot say India is developing in a comprehens­ive and balanced manner. And we are doing this with a concrete strategy in Bihar, Bengal, Jharkhand, Odisha, Northeaste­rn states. The outcome will surprise you. Our mission for the assembly is 120 seats. PM Modi’s credibilit­y is very high. The government there is a failed government. If it has been in power in 18-19 years, you can only judge it on performanc­e – health, education, employment, irrigation, drinking water. Only 2% people in Odisha have piped water. Will you call this government successful? If doctors are reducing in the health care system, there is a patient-bed imbalance, will you call it successful? If malnutriti­on has led to stunting, what will you call it? Naveen babu has got votes four times. So he may have been popular. But the key is its performanc­e. It is a failed, stagnant government. Today, there is an alternativ­e. We were never an all Odisha party. For the first time, our base has extended to all villages. Under Amit Shah’s strategy, we are increasing organisati­onal capacity; we are building party structure in 36,000 booths; we are taking Modi’s developmen­t agenda to booths; and exposing the government’s failures. Did Naveen babu support Union government on Aad- haar? He opposed us in Parliament. Did he support us on Ayushman Bharat? He opposed it. Has he supported us on aspiration­al districts? He opposed it and just joined. This support is imaginatio­n of three people in Delhi. He is an opportunis­tic politician. When he broke off his alliance with us in 2009, he was in power with Congress support. He does politics according to convenienc­e; he has no ideology. The parliament­ary board will decide. I am just a simple worker. But we are implementi­ng Modi’s developmen­tal agenda. No. There is a collective leadership there. The issue is credibilit­y and developmen­t agenda of Modi. People have faith in his work. We will fight in the PM’S name. You look at how his policy reforms have helped Odisha. If one state benefited from the 14th Finance Commission, it was Odisha – it got thrice the money. The MMRD act changed; there was an auction of mineral resources; obviously, a mineral-rich state like Odisha benefited. Mineral Developmen­t Fund was created; Odisha districts got most funds.

Four crore homes will get electricit­y in the country, out of which forty lakhs will be in Odisha alone. Take NCLT – Tata has bought the Bhushan factory. This will help Odisha’s industrial­isation. Odisha will become a steel hub in the country. Paradeep port is the number two port in the country after Kandla. There was 4,600km of national highways in Odisha; this government has added 5,000km. Take MSP and who will benefit from it. 50 lakh metric tonne of paddy is procured in Odisha, there has been a hike of Rs 200 per quintal; the net beneficiar­ies will be farmers. These forces were together last time, too. Divisive, negative narrative will not work. Don’t underestim­ate the emerging, aspiration­al, connected India.

We will overcome it. Nitishji is our political ally. He will contest with us. He is and will remain the chief ally of PM Modi in the state. Don’t see things from the old prism. He is the face of our government there. He will have a role in seat sharing. Odisha and Bengal will be two big pillars of the new government in 2019. Our leadership has acceptabil­ity across the world. His name is Narendra Modi.

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 ?? HT PHOTO ?? With the latest move, the RSS will have a role in all electionre­lated decision making in 2019.
HT PHOTO With the latest move, the RSS will have a role in all electionre­lated decision making in 2019.

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