Hindustan Times (Delhi)

Jaishankar rules out engagement with Pak

- HT Correspond­ent

NEW DELHI: Virtually ruling out the possibilit­y of any engagement with Pakistan in the near future, India’s external affairs minister S Jaishankar on Thursday described the decision to link talks to cessation of terrorism among the fundamenta­l changes to entrenched views in the country’s foreign policy.

Jaishankar made the remarks while delivering the Ramnath Goenka Lecture on the theme “Beyond the Delhi dogma: Indian foreign policy in a changing world”.

Listing several instances of

India underestim­ating Pakistan and continuing with the same approach of trying to start a bilateral dialogue, he said: “Thus, in 1972 at Shimla, India chose to bet on an optimistic outlook on Pakistan. At the end of the day, it resulted in both a revanchist Pakistan and a continuing problem in Jammu and Kashmir.”

Talk about dogma and entrenched views are “naturally strongest on the more perennial challenges” such as Pakistan, and changes in thinking had triggered a debate over the past few years, he said. “That fact is that we had allowed the narrative to focus mainly on a dialogue, when the real issue was stopping crossborde­r terrorism,” he said.

“In the last five years, however, a different normal has developed and global conversati­ons on cross-border terrorism have become more serious. Just look at the FATF (Financial Action Task Force) as proof of that assertion,” Jaishankar said.

During a subsequent conversati­on with strategic expert C Raja Mohan, Jaishankar said Pakistan was “an issue where we have no choice but to do what we’re doing”. He said PM Narendra Modi had done more than others to try and find a way forward.

“Who doesn’t want a good relationsh­ip but at the end of the day...the reality (is) that this neighbour has built an industry of terror to pressure us. There’s no point living in denial because when you live in denial, they will only increase it,” he said.

In a reference to the changes in Jammu and Kashmir’s special status, Jaishankar said if one was averse to risks, one could end up doing nothing.

“As we move decisively to combat separatism in Jammu and Kashmir, there is some talk today of its internatio­nalisation and hyphenatio­n of our ties with Pakistan. This is thinking from the past, reflecting neither the strength of India, the mood of the nation nor the determinat­ion of the government,” he said.

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