Hindustan Times (Delhi)

‘Either I take five-fors or I get dropped’

- Shalini Gupta shalini.gupta@htlive.com

nCHANDIGAR­H:R Ashwin, in his own words, has swung between the extremes in Test cricket in the recent past. The year 2019 began with India’s lead spinner being left out of the XI for the historic Sydney Test and he was later benched on the Test tour of the Caribbean as well. But when he got his chance against South Africa at home in October, the 33-year-old off-spinner bounced back with a sevenwicke­t haul in Vizag, figures that also helped him get to 350 Test wickets in record time. In an interview, Ashwin speaks of the lows and the highs—opening up on the past and also his plans for the future once Indian cricket resumes. Excerpts.

I have played for different teams in the IPL. It is the most watched and popular league— so the hysteria is always there. I am thrilled to be a part of the Delhi Capitals. A new team always brings up different challenges. Due to the pandemic, I have not had a chance to interact with any player yet but I’m looking forward to push myself and give my best.

It is just another variation. I bowled leg-breaks in the last IPL and will be trying my hand (at it) in this edition too. have to prove anything to anyone. Having played 71 Tests and taken 365 wickets shows I have played well for India. game, but his style is different. He has done well in the last two to three years. Virat expects a player to dish out match-winning performanc­es consistent­ly, while turning out to be a great match-winner himself.

One feels dejected and disappoint­ed when dropped. But that is how sport is. This happens. Take the recent example of Stuart Broad. He was dropped from the first Test against the West Indies and ended up making a great comeback in the next game. I too have swung between those extremes. Either I take five-wicket hauls or I get dropped. I just don’t let the negativity get to me.

Numbers are not important. Muttiah Muralithar­an is a legend with 800 wickets. I don’t even know if I can play the number of matches he has played. It was nice to get noticed but frankly numbers don’t attract me much. Whether it is my return to Test or not, I have always bowled with heart and soul. A good performanc­e always spurs you on. helped me initially and I settled in the role pretty well. I had also played a lot of domestic cricket by then. There was no pressure as such. I enjoyed playing for India when I got the chance. I never thought I was filling someone else’s shoes. I created my own space as time went by. (Captain) Dhoni also helped me gain confidence by always backing me.

I have been fortunate enough to have played under MS for a long time. He has this quality of giving space to the bowler and let him do his stuff. He gave that freedom, which helped me become a better bowler. His role behind the wickets further helped me peak. Be it T20 or Tests, his cricketing brain was superb. And the way he backs his players is phenomenal.

I like to believe I can play T20s and ODIS for India. I believe in my skills. I would like to take this belief to my grave also that, ‘yes, I can play in all formats’. Last season, I did pretty well for KXIP and I feel there is a lot of white-ball cricket left in me. I am always hopeful and up for the challenge.

Yes. The ECB and CA do it too. This sends out a very healthy message that Tests are being taken very seriously. BCCI acknowledg­es this and has therefore adopted such a policy.

India’s pacers are doing well at the world stage, including at home. We have also seen a change in the way pitches are prepared in India now. Unlike the way the pitches were earlier, they have something in it for the pacers now. Bumrah’s rise has been sharp. Credit goes to him for how he has performed and helped India win matches home and away. It is a wonderful transition for Indian cricket. Having pacers as match-winners is always great. It is always commendabl­e to have such pacers and I enjoy bowling alongside them.

The will to do well for my country. I take a lot of pride and am honoured to play for India. As long as I can serve India, I will continue to feel super. Also, I still enjoy being on the field and being competitiv­e.

Honestly, I don’t believe in this numbers game. I don’t plan like that. Hats off to Anil Kumble for what he achieved. But my journey is different. I would like to take life as it comes. I am happy to have crossed the 350-wicket mark in Tests and feel very proud of it. It would be an honour to play for India as long as I can. That’s more important.

Actually, there are two moments. One, winning the World Cup in 2011. The second has to be when we beat Australia in Bengaluru in a Test back in 2017. We levelled the fourmatch series at 1-1. It was wonderful to take a five-wicket haul at a crucial juncture and get to the win.

Well, I would like people to remember me as a bowler who played attractive cricket and gave the batsmen a tough time. Nothing more.

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