Hindustan Times (Lucknow)

‘The way net zero target is being formulated is unfair’

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NEW DELHI: With less than a month left until the Glasgow climate change conference (COP 26), there is debate on what India’s stand should be at the climate negotiatio­ns. Sunita Narain, an expert on climate negotiatio­ns who has been tracking the talks since 1992 and director general of Centre for Science and Environmen­t, said in an interview to Jayashree Nandi that developed countries are trying to dilute the principle of equity by pushing developing countries like India to announce a target of net zero emissions by 2050. Whereas the rich countries, with far greater historical responsibi­lity, should deliver on a net zero target way earlier at least by 2030. Edited excerpts:

What are your expectatio­ns from COP 26 in Glasgow?

My expectatio­n is that COP 26 will be bold, courageous, and just. I am using those words very carefully because this COP is happening at a time when we know two things. One, we know the threat of climate change is real and we are seeing its impacts not only in the developing but also in the rich world... When the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) was signed in 1992 and it was agreed that there would be a principle of common

but differenti­ated responsibi­lities (CBDR) built into the convention, I don’t think countries of the north understood the importance of it...

What will be the key issues at COP 26?

There are two levels of issues at COP now: those outside the COP and those inside the paperwork. Those outside shape public discourse. First is net zero. It’s not in the COP papers but it is an issue out there. CSE’s (Centre for Science and Environmen­t) position has been that the way net zero target is being formulated is intrinsica­lly unfair...The world should move to net zero by 2050, which means the rich world should move to net zero in 2030 and then the entire world moves to net zero by 2050. The other formulatio­n is what the Chinese have put out is you move to net zero in 2050 and we do it in 2060. In which case a country like India would move to net zero in 2070 and most of Africa would move in 2080. That would mean the world would be even more unsafe in terms of temperatur­e rise and emissions...

Will there be pressure to phase out coal?

Coal is a very polluting substance. We need to do electrific­ation of our economy from gas, renewable or cleaner coal power plants. We want to move coal from small boilers and industries. That’s our national perspectiv­e and should drive internal policy. As far as coal globally is concerned, let’s be very clear that we do want the northern countries to get out of fossil fuels...

What will be the official issues at COP 26?

They will be looking at plans for 2030 and how countries will meet them...

What should be India’s stand at COP 26?

India’s stand has to be twofold: very strong in terms of putting out the issues of equity and justice at the global level... India is not being a denier or naysayer. In fact, it has been asking for equity...

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