Hindustan Times (Patiala)

Judges’ presser was disturbing: Next CJI

- Bhadra Sinha letters@hindustant­imes.com

Justice Sharad Arvind Bobde, who takes over as the next CJI in a little over two weeks, has described the January 12, 2018, press conference by the four senior-most judges at the time against then CJI Dipak Misra as a “disturbing event” for the judiciary. In an interview with HT, the CJI-designate, who will take over a day after current chief justice Ranjan Gogoi retires on November 17, said matters had improved since last year and the relationsh­ip between judges was much better than before.

“Relations were very poor earlier, now we have more informal get-togethers and communicat­ion is open between the judges,” justice Bobde said.

At the unpreceden­ted January 2018 press conference, justices J Chelameshw­ar, Gogoi, Kurian Joseph and Madan Lokur aired their grievances over then-CJI Misra’s style of functionin­g. He was assigning important cases to junior judges, they said, adding that the alleged lack of transparen­cy in the selection of judges to try cases was a cause of “serious concern”. All except Gogoi have now retired.

On appointmen­t and elevation of judges, justice Bobde said a decision has been taken that SC collegium will not disclose reasons for suitabilit­y or non-suitabilit­y of candidates as judges.

On November 18 , Justice Sharad Arvind Bobde, 63 will be sworn in as the 47th Chief Justice of India, a day after the incumbent CJI Ranjan Gogoi demits office. Justice Bobde has been part of benches that have delivered landmark judgements but he will also be remembered for the role he played in defusing tensions between the then CJI Dipak Misra and four judges, including present CJI Gogoi, who held a press conference on January 12, 2018 to air their grievances about how the top court was being run.

Edited excerpts from an interview: The press conference called by the four judges on January 12 exposed the institutio­n’s vulnerabil­ity. Questions were raised over the lack of collective leadership in the top court. How will you ensure this issue is dealt with under you, especially since you played a key role in resolving the difference­s back then?

The press conference was very disturbing for all of us. It was disturbing to see that things in Supreme Court had come to such a pass. I looked upon all the judges as one court, and knew people on what were being called the two sides. I did what came to me naturally.

Some hard lines were drawn by people among themselves. That made the situation very difficult. A lot of conflict in institutio­ns arises when there is a conflict between right and right. Nobody deliberate­ly acts in the consciousn­ess that he is wrong. People always believe they are right when taking a stand.

There has to be collegiali­ty, otherwise all the judges together can never function as a court. Today the situation is very different from that period. It’s not the same. Relationsh­ip between judges is much better than ever before. Judges often interact with each other informally; there is no communicat­ion gap between the judges too. I consider all the judges as one and they all represent the Supreme Court together. The judiciary has been facing criticism over the opaque system of appointing judges to the high court and Supreme Court. Last year, the apex court’s collegium took a decision to upload its resolution­s on the website, giving reasons for not elevating a particular lawyer as a judge. It seems the present collegium, which includes you too, has gone back on that decision. Why?

Withholdin­g informatio­n about a person not suitable to become a judge does not amount to secrecy; it is privacy. Every lawyer considered for a judge’s post is a respectabl­e person. He or she agrees to become a judge because the collegium calls them. And for some reason if the lawyer is not found unfit, then why should he or she go back to practice with adverse remarks? Every person’s reputation is protected under the defamation law. Even though the official comment we make in discharge of our duty is not subject to the defamation law, why we should leave a lawyer with a negative reputation?

There are reasons to deny a judge’s position to a person. The reasons are on record. Why should the whole world hear about it? Suppose a person is not brought to the top court as a judge and we disclose reasons for the same then would that person be able to discharge his or her duties as a chief justice of the HC where he or she is posted? It’s a conscious decision taken not to put up details of a collegium resolution on the website. We will see how it works.

On the point of transparen­cy, we do not complain if anyone is not inducted into the cabinet. Even in other institutio­ns, reasons for not appointing a particular bureaucrat to a specific post is not made public, then why is there such a clamour to know about appointmen­ts in judiciary. There can be criticism if no reasons are given on record. Another challenge you face as the CJI designate is the high number of vacancies in judiciary. Today several high courts are functionin­g without a chief justice. How do you intend to resolve this?

The process to appoint judges is very slow. But whether it is advisable to act fast is a question one needs to look into. Appointmen­t of judges requires lot of inputs and the reason is because there is immunity from the removal process. If a wrong candidate is appointed as judge and later found not to be suitable then the process of removal is very tedious. It often happens that the high court collegium may overlook some facts regarding a candidate, which is brought to (our) notice by someone else. With social media becoming more aggressive, the judiciary is under constant scrutiny. What is your opinion on this growing trend where every decision taken by the judiciary, including compositio­n of benches, is being judged by the public?

This is not a legitimate exercise of freedom of speech and expression. Judges have no qualms about receiving remarks on their judgements. But to comment on compositio­n of benches or the background of judges who deliver a verdict is not correct.

Conversati­on on social media is akin to discussion­s that used to take place at tea stalls or clubs. Social media has simply changed the mode of expression and the reach. The difference between the descriptio­n and described will be there always.

I still think that as judges we should not participat­e on social media and agonise over these things. We have a lot more work to do.

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