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TRADE WARS

Can India do without imports from China? And will a hard-nosed reading of PM Modi’s ‘atmanirbha­r Bharat’ slogan hurt Indian interests? The Board of India Today Experts (BITE) weighs in

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Q.Can India use bilateral trade and access to its domestic markets as ways to rein in an increasing­ly aggressive China?

BIBEK DEBROY

Yes, it can. But this cannot be achieved overnight. Trade is not delinked from investment­s. The two go hand in hand. China does not have market economy status under the WTO (World Trade Organizati­on) rules, which apply to countries, not companies (except in the case of anti-dumping agreements). Moreover, the MFN (most-favoured nation) clause doesn’t apply to all services. Therefore, a selective and gradual phasing out of Chinese imports is indeed possible.

AJAY SAHAI

One of the reasons for China’s recent aggressive stance is to divert the attention of its people from the slowdown of its own economy. Therefore, hitting it

economical­ly can be an effective strategy. However, we have to evaluate its pros and cons. India’s exports to China stood at $17 billion and our imports from China at $68 billion in 2019. Thus, in aggregate terms, containing bilateral trade will, naturally, adversely affect China much more. However, China’s share in our exports was

5.2 per cent while India’s share in their exports was 2.72 per cent, thus retaliator­y action will have some bearing on our exports as well. The loss in exports can be nullified by working out strategic trade partnershi­ps with countries harbouring anti-China sentiments— like the US, parts of Europe, Japan, South Korea, the Philippine­s, Taiwan and Australia, among others. Another approach could be to facilitate imports of raw materials and intermedia­te goods from China while encouragin­g value-added exports from India, and discouragi­ng our raw material exports, which help Chinese manufactur­ers become more competitiv­e.

R.C. BHARGAVA

I don’t have data, but I would think that India’s imports from China would not be a large enough percentage of their exports to cause China enough concern to shape their relationsh­ip with India.

N.R. BHANUMURTH­Y

It’s not impossible, but might involve many interventi­ons, more so of strategic and diplomatic nature. The US has been adopting such means to contain China’s imports, with limited success.

ASHWANI MAHAJAN

Absolutely. The country required political will to take on China. There are ample tariff and non-tariff barriers available to execute this. The cheap Chinese imports were killing jobs and manufactur­ing capacities in India, along with increasing security risks in some sectors. Trade should be done on equal footing. The government must consider improving the standards for Indian products and follow up with policies and incentives to build and strengthen indigenous capability.

BISWAJIT DHAR

Over the past decade, India has not been able to use its bilateral FTAs (free trade agreements) effectivel­y to strengthen its manufactur­ing sector, in particular. Policy-makers recognised this weakness in the manufactur­ing industries in the previous decade, and yet nothing significan­t was done to revive them, despite announceme­nt of ambitious programmes like Make in India. In such a situation, FTA partners have continued to exploit the Indian market, leaving India with rising trade deficits. The domestic market was facing a serious demand squeeze even before the pandemic. Given the widespread lack of jobs now, demand conditions in the domestic market are far worse than before. Unless serious steps are taken to revive the MSME sector, the demand side will continue to be a major bottleneck.

SACHIN CHATURVEDI

India can use several levers—tariff or non-tariff—to block Chinese products. The country has enough policy space to do it. But for this, we need to get ready to become an expensive economy in the short term. There is cost to developing the local ecosystem for components and certain products.

“INDIA SHOULD WORK OUT TRADE PARTNERSHI­PS WITH COUNTRIES HARBOURING ANTI-CHINA SENTIMENTS” —Ajay Sahai

Q.a) India’s dependence in some key sectors, such as auto, pharma and electronic­s, seems too heavy to be taken lightly. Can Indian manufactur­ers do without Chinese raw materials? b) Will the price impact of a blanket ban be too heavy for Indian manufactur­ers and consumers?

BIBEK DEBROY

A. It is a gradual process. There is no reason why a variety of consumer goods should be imported from China. Doing away with Chinese inputs means India will have to integrate itself even more into global supply chains through reforms.

B. I don’t think anyone contemplat­es a blanket ban. But internatio­nal negotiatio­ns are built on reciprocit­y.

AJAY SAHAI

A. This is the most opportune time to draw a roadmap for manufactur­ing of raw materials in India in the medium to long term. We should provide ‘plug and play’ facility to investors so that they can kickstart production quickly. The fiscal support given to electronic­s, pharma and medical equipment manufactur­ing is a step in the right direction. For our immediate requiremen­t, we should also look for alternativ­e sources of these supplies from Southeast Asia and Europe, which may not be the most competitiv­e but would certainly be more reliable.

B. A blanket ban may temporaril­y disrupt supply chains as China accounts for a little more than a fifth of India’s non-oil imports and, in some segments, the dependence is very high. In many tariff lines of electronic­s, telecommun­ication, formulatio­ns and specialty chemicals, China accounts for over 50 per cent of India’s imports. However, this is the time to develop domestic capability in such sectors as

Covid has taught us that we need to avoid supply disruption­s.

R.C. BHARGAVA

A. As long as India does not manufactur­e those raw materials, they will have to be imported. It will hurt the growth of Indian industry, and the consumer, if these are imported at a higher price. Unless there are compelling reasons for not importing from the lowest-priced source, we should not change. The semi-conductor industry is non-existent in India and till it is developed, there is no alternativ­e to imports. B. (Addressed in the answer above)

N.R. BHANUMURTH­Y

A. Right now, Indian manufactur­ing is highly dependent on China and tensions with them will create disruption­s in the way our manufactur­ing sector does business. It might also increase cost of production, reducing India’s competitiv­eness in the internatio­nal market. However, it is important to take a long-term view on India’s relationsh­ip with China. These disruption­s may be inevitable in the short term.

B. If a blanket ban happens, price impact on Indian manufactur­ers and on all sectors that depend on trade will be huge. There is a clear trade-off between trade and inflation.

ASHWANI MAHAJAN

A. Yes. In the short-term these sectors might feel the pinch. This is an opportunit­y for companies in the US, Europe, Japan and Korea to join hands with India—a winwin situation for all.

B. Nobody is talking about a blanket ban but a substantia­l cut-down. Import of cheaper products is not healthy for an economy like India. It is turning us into a mercantile economy with limited manufactur­ing capacity. We have to take a broader national view. Increasing domestic capacities will create jobs, add to the national income and strengthen price stability.

BISWAJIT DHAR

A. Indian manufactur­ers in electronic­s and pharma depend on intermedia­te goods from China. It will be very difficult, if not impossible, to replace the Chinese suppliers, either with domestic producers or those from other countries in the short run. If the government can get the right incentives in place for domestic manufactur­ers immediatel­y, there can be a possibilit­y of decreasing reliance on imports in the medium term. In auto, the situation is relatively better since the two largest CBU (completely built unit) manufactur­ers—Suzuki and Hyundai—have domestic component manufactur­ers to lean on.

B. A blanket ban will create shortages in the Indian market and might even encourage smuggling via neighbouri­ng countries. In either case, consumers will be hard hit.

SACHIN CHATURVEDI

A. Pharmaceut­icals (especially APIs, vaccines and medical devices), electronic­s and banking finance are some of the sectors where indigenous strength would play an important role. Given the liberal financial policies of several countries, it is not geographic restrictio­ns but sectoral ones that may play the desired role. B. India’s industrial policy can comprise all possible actions to promote industrial developmen­t that go beyond the scope of free market forces. India can perhaps take inspiratio­n from the policies in the larger East Asian newly industrial­ised economies and Japan, which were designed to upgrade existing manufactur­ing activities, encourage entry into advanced new activities, raise local content, and develop the base of local technologi­cal capabiliti­es.

Q.a) Is it practicabl­e to make a distinctio­n between essential/ nonessenti­al imports? Will China play ball if India goes that way? b) Would Chinese capital in Indian start-ups/ industry count as ‘non-essential’?

BIBEK DEBROY

A. The essential versus non-essential debate is simplistic. By China playing ball, I presume the reference is to retaliator­y action by China. The question isn’t what China does with the bat or the ball, but what is in our best strategic interest. It’s possible that for some items, in the short-term, alternativ­e sources will involve marginally higher prices. B. There are some strategic sectors where it isn’t desirable to have Chinese investment­s. India isn’t a signatory to the government procuremen­t agreement. Therefore, except for multilater­ally-funded projects, global tendering is not necessary. There is a legal difference between taking action against a country and against specific companies.

AJAY SAHAI

A. It definitely makes sense to reduce dependence by choosing between essential and non-essential imports. The nonessenti­al imports may be immediatel­y checked while essential ones may be given some rope. The focus should be on achieving competitiv­eness by attracting investment­s in such sectors and taking advantage of economies of scale. While working out this strategy, we should factor in retaliatio­n by China, but not be unduly worried about it.

B. India is not short of capital. However, start-ups require heavy investment­s and are often unable to get the same from domestic sources. The government should provide liberal tax concession to individual­s to invest in start-ups so that the tax benefits offset the risks involved in investing. This should be in addition to the encouragem­ent given to venture capital funds and financial institutio­ns to invest in such companies.

R.C. BHARGAVA

A. I believe it is possible. Fireworks, idols and toys are hardly essential. I’m not sure what the WTO rules are, but the real answer is to make these in India at a lower cost. There is no reason why that can’t be done if we reduce unnecessar­y additions to manufactur­ing costs. B. All capital is the same. How Chinese capital is treated is really a political question.

N.R. BHANUMURTH­Y

A. Theoretica­lly, yes. However, given our infrastruc­ture at ports and airports, it will be very difficult. Further, China is part of the global supply chain in a big way, and it is going to be a big challenge to determine if the imports are from China and then if they are essential. B. This would create another dimension of ambiguity. Importing capital from China will pose risks for India equally, if not more.

ASHWANI MAHAJAN

A. Yes. In the past, too, we made similar distinctio­ns. But the country has the capability to manufactur­e both. Our aim should be to make India self-reliant for essential products and gradually move towards building the capability to manufactur­e non-essential goods. This requires not only a clear roadmap, but also efficient execution by both bureaucrat­s and industry.

B. This decision has to be taken by the promoters and the consumers of these products. The government must look at what Chinese investors are expecting from these ‘loss-making’ start-ups. There is an immediate need to tighten norms to restrict transferri­ng of data. The government should look at ways to block any such investment in the future.

BISWAJIT DHAR

A. It is impossible. How would the idols being imported from China be classified, essential or non-essential?

B. Chinese capital must be considered as essential, especially if the employment potential of the unicorns is considered. Further, Chinese capital, directly or indirectly, was coming into infrastruc­ture projects. If these projects are adversely hit, as they seem to be, there will be a domino effect on the Indian economy.

SACHIN CHATURVEDI

A. There is no objective answer to this. It is up to any country to decide what is essential for them and what isn’t. But the dynamics of global manufactur­ing is changing. Countries are looking at alternativ­e sources for components and products. As we speak, alternativ­es are emerging, if at a slightly higher cost. B. There is no denying that Chinese companies have demonstrat­ed remarkable interest in the Indian economy. The cumulative FDI now stands at $8 billion, but in the last one year itself, start-ups attracted investment of nearly $1.5 billion (additional $3.5 billion from other routes). With the emerging shortfalls, it is important for India to have a calibrated approach on FDI norms.

“ALL CAPITAL IS THE SAME. HOW CHINESE CAPITAL IS TREATED IS REALLY A POLITICAL QUESTION” —R.C. Bhargava

“RAISING TARIFFS TO CONTAIN IMPORTS IS AN OLD GAME. IT MAY NOT HELP INDIA IN THE LONG TERM” —N.R. Bhanumurth­y

Q.

Is raising tariff barriers selectivel­y a practical option? What other levers, if any, can India effectivel­y employ to level the field?

BIBEK DEBROY

Basic customs duties are subject to restraints, but anti-dumping or safeguard duties are not. There is also scope to use NTBs (non-tariff barriers).

AJAY SAHAI

We can increase tariffs for MFN (mostfavour­ed nations) up to the bound rates. A hike in tariff on non-essential imports is pragmatic, though it may slightly increase prices for consumers. However, given the context, Indian consumers are unlikely to mind such a surcharge. We can also invoke the national security clause in the WTO rules to invoke specific duty only on imports from China. Better still would be to restrict market access, which does not attract much attention and is frequently used by some countries, including China.

R.C. BHARGAVA

I believe in making Indian industry lower cost and competitiv­e. Both the State and entreprene­urs have a role to play in that.

N.R. BHANUMURTH­Y

Raising tariffs to contain imports is an old game. That may not help India in the long term. And this is exactly the apprehensi­on that most trade economists have—that India might get into bad old import-substituti­on strategy. One way, rather the only way, to ensure a level playing field is to have measures that could improve productivi­ty and competitiv­eness of our goods. This is exactly what China did three decades ago.

ASHWANI MAHAJAN

Strategy has to be deployed from product to product. Rising labour costs in China have depleted its price competitiv­eness in various products. China’s trade war with the US has already blocked the North American market for several Chinese goods, many of which China is now dumping in India. Moreover, India’s capacity utilisatio­n in various sectors is less than 70 per cent. Tariff rationalis­ation should be done to cut imports in these sectors. Effective tariffs in India are less than 10 per cent, whereas WTO bound rates are 40 per cent.

BISWAJIT DHAR

Raising tariffs will only increase the cost of the products and would hit the consumers when they are already suffering from loss of income. I cannot think of any instrument to control imports from China that would not hurt the Indian consumer.

SACHIN CHATURVEDI

China’s urge to capture technology is also generating fear across various partner countries. The conflicts are not helping China and it would have to position itself in a way that its rise is not seen as a destabilis­ing entity. This is all the more important since China has witnessed an unpreceden­ted slowdown in the past 30 years. The growth slowed to 6.1 per cent last year, and is likely to go down to 6 per cent this year.

At the national level, efforts should be made to enhance the competitiv­e character of firms and enterprise­s, reducing logistics-based production and shipment costs, and paving the way for a fresh look at trade agreements, both at a regional level and trans-continenta­l level.

Q.

China is accused of using India’s free trade agreements with other countries to gain a backdoor entry into India. Should these FTAs be reviewed?

“THE FTAs SHOULD BE REVIEWED... INDIA NEEDS TO STRENGTHEN THE IMPLEMENTA­TION OF PROVISIONS RELATING TO RORs” —Biswajit Dhar

BIBEK DEBROY

Yes, they should be looked at. This is fundamenta­lly a Rules of Origin Regulation­s (ROR) issue, which is difficult to enforce.

AJAY SAHAI

If the goods made in China are re-routed via partner countries with whom we have FTAs, the circumvent­ion clause can be invoked. Customs can ask for details to establish how the ROR requiremen­ts were adhered to. If violations of ROR are found, we can suspend tariff concession­s on such imports and take up the matter bilaterall­y. In the past, duty benefits on import of gold jewellery from one of the FTA countries was denied by India on grounds of circumvent­ion.

R.C. BHARGAVA

The focus should be on making our own manufactur­ing much more competitiv­e as quickly as possible. FTAs would then become an opportunit­y for the Indian industry.

N.R. BHANUMURTH­Y

I understand that the commerce ministry had already initiated the review of all existing FTAs/ BTAs (bilateral trade agreements) even before the present friction with China began. In my opinion, India has not benefited much through these agreements since these have given China indirect access to Indian markets. With weak database, India mostly ended up with sub-optimal trade agreements, and for these reasons, I personally was against India joining the RCEP (Regional Comprehens­ive Economic Partnershi­p). But this doesn’t mean we are against trade.

ASHWANI MAHAJAN

Yes. The ASEAN countries have agreed to review this deal. The principle of ROR has been pushed by Indian negotiator­s. There is also a need to identify the source of capital and entreprene­urs to determine the ROR. We are pushing the government to do such review not only with ASEAN countries, but with all FTA and similar agreement partners.

BISWAJIT DHAR

The FTAs should surely be reviewed. But, more importantl­y, India needs to strengthen the implementa­tion of the provisions relating to RORs. Cases of circumvent­ion need to be identified and checked effectivel­y.

SACHIN CHATURVEDI

In the past decade, India signed seven FTAs and four PTAs (preferenti­al trade agreements). Upon analysing the performanc­e of FTAs, we can see that imports have multiplied, but so have exports. In the case of ASEAN pre- and post-FTA, we find an average growth of 19.7 per cent in exports and 15.4 per cent in imports. The South Korea pre- and post-FTAs exports registered a growth of 6.4 per cent, while imports 15.5 per cent. For Japan, exports saw a growth of 14.4 per cent while imports, 10.7 per cent.

Many of these agreements do require upgradatio­n. The ASEAN countries have agreed to renegotiat­e the agreement. There are schools of thoughts, which want the principle of ROR to be negotiated.

Q.

How should one understand Prime Minister Modi’s ‘atmanirbha­r Bharat’ slogan in this context? Is it possible to draw a legible policy line between self-reliance and interdepen­dence?

BIBEK DEBROY

I think this should be interprete­d not as isolation and insulation but as building up domestic competitiv­eness. The government’s policies are designed to ensure that. Given the uncertain, worsening external environmen­t, sources of growth will have to be endogenous.

AJAY SAHAI

“Atmanirbha­r” refers to self-reliance, which is aimed at developing capabiliti­es indigenous­ly without shunning imports. Though our domestic supply is currently not very efficient, it is reliable, and in the trade-off between reliabilit­y and efficiency,

the former should get a preference over the latter. We all were dependent on our reliable neighbourh­ood kirana stores and not on the ‘efficient’ e-commerce marketplac­es during the COVID-19 crisis. It is good that we are focusing on import substituti­on to reduce imports in some key sectors.

We need to evaluate on a sectorspec­ific basis to see whether self-reliance is feasible or if turning to other countries will be a better option. Even if we focus on self-reliance in some sectors, we need to build an ecosystem to level the playing field for such manufactur­ers. This means we not only need to give them parity of import tariffs, but also extend concession­al credit along with competitiv­e electricit­y tariffs and efficient logistics. Currently, Indian manufactur­ers pay more for inland freight, while supplying machinery, say, from Visakhapat­nam to Ludhiana, than a foreign supplier dispatchin­g it from North or Southeast Asia to Ludhiana.

R.C. BHARGAVA

I understand the prime minister’s lamentatio­ns over our failure to be a competitiv­e manufactur­ing country, and being dependent on large imports to sustain our manufactur­ing and export industries. ‘Atmanirbha­rta’ requires India to grow manufactur­ing rapidly and become highly competitiv­e.

N.R. BHANUMURTH­Y

There appears to be some ambiguity with regard to the economic philosophy of ‘atmanirbha­r Bharat’. In my view, it is an extension of this government’s policies like ‘Make in India’. While there is a need for intellectu­al discussion on this, I do not agree that it is against trade. Rather, the ultimate objective, in my view, is that India producing a whole lot of commoditie­s for both Indians and for the world as a whole is almost the same as what China has done for the world for the past three decades.

ASHWANI MAHAJAN ‘Atmanirbha­r Bharat’ is not a protection­ist campaign but an effort to rejuvenate domestic manufactur­ing and products. Nobody wants India to stay isolated, but industry in India must be strengthen­ed, more opportunit­ies should be given to access the best technology, be more productive, be more competitiv­e, excel and export in the global market.

BISWAJIT DHAR

The PM did not elaborate as to what he meant by ‘atmanirbha­r’, but several ministers have interprete­d the concept as shunning imports. This implies that the concept should be understood as

“self-reliance” in the classical sense, which would then require India to adopt import substituti­on policies yet again. My personal view is that this policy is neither feasible nor desirable in the 21st century. It is not feasible because the country lacks both financial and technologi­cal resources needed for implementi­ng this policy. It is not desirable because to follow this path, India would have to embrace autarchy, and shut itself off from the rest of the world.

SACHIN CHATURVEDI

If India has to become a super power, trade, investment and interlinka­ges with technology developmen­t would have to be nurtured in a way with value chains to help in localisati­on of production architectu­re. Self-reliance is not an autarchic concept, it envisages global linkages.

ARUN MAIRA

Ten years ago, India’s then ambassador to China pointed out that while the volume of India-China trade was growing no doubt, the pattern of trade was worrying. China’s exports to India were many times India’s to China. Also, while India was exporting more raw material, China was exporting finished goods, and many high-tech ones. This, he said, was the trade pattern between a colonial power and its colony.

In 1990, India’s industrial capacity was the same as China’s and, in some sectors, India was ahead—in machine tools and power equipment, for example. By 2010, India was importing not only sophistica­ted power equipment, machine tools and electronic items from China but also toys, footwear and other simple, easy-tomanufact­ure products.

China has built strong industrial capabiliti­es since the 1990s; India’s industrial policy, if it had one, clearly failed. Our trade policy, industrial policy and foreign policy have to be interlinke­d. What has been done over the past 30 years cannot be undone. China holds stronger cards than does India on the industry and trade fronts. India’s economy will be vulnerable in a trade war. However, India’s consumers and industries must be prepared to tighten their belts, just as our soldiers are along the border. India needs jobs to provide incomes to its citizens, it needs industries to provide these jobs, and it needs to balance the trade with China to make it a trade between equals. Atmanirbha­r Bharat is essential, otherwise ‘interdepen­dence’ will be a colonial interdepen­dence, as our ambassador astutely pointed out.

“CHINA HOLDS STRONGER CARDS AND A TRADE WAR WILL HURT INDIA. BUT OUR INDUSTRY AND CONSUMERS MUST TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS” —Arun Maira

 ??  ?? BIBEK DEBROY Chairman, Economic Advisory Council to the Prime Minister (EAC-PM)
BIBEK DEBROY Chairman, Economic Advisory Council to the Prime Minister (EAC-PM)
 ??  ?? AJAY SAHAI Director general and CEO, Federation of Indian Exports Organisati­ons (FIEO)
AJAY SAHAI Director general and CEO, Federation of Indian Exports Organisati­ons (FIEO)
 ??  ?? R.C. BHARGAVA Chairman, Maruti Suzuki India Ltd
R.C. BHARGAVA Chairman, Maruti Suzuki India Ltd
 ??  ?? N.R. BHANUMURTH­Y Vice-chancellor, BASE University
N.R. BHANUMURTH­Y Vice-chancellor, BASE University
 ??  ?? BISWAJIT DHAR Professor, Centre for Economic Studies and Planning, School of Social Sciences, Jawaharlal Nehru University
BISWAJIT DHAR Professor, Centre for Economic Studies and Planning, School of Social Sciences, Jawaharlal Nehru University
 ??  ?? SACHIN CHATURVEDI Director general, Research and Informatio­n System for Developing Countries
SACHIN CHATURVEDI Director general, Research and Informatio­n System for Developing Countries
 ??  ?? ARUN MAIRA Former member, Planning Commission
ARUN MAIRA Former member, Planning Commission
 ??  ?? ASHWANI MAHAJAN National co-convenor, Swadeshi Jagran Manch
ASHWANI MAHAJAN National co-convenor, Swadeshi Jagran Manch

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