Foul-mouthed rant from Wa­ters as he storms out of in­ter­view with Dun­phy

Irish Independent - - News / Debate The Eighth - Sean Nolan

JOUR­NAL­IST and prominent No cam­paigner John Wa­ters has stormed out of a pod­cast record­ing with Ea­mon Dun­phy in a row over a line of ques­tion­ing on the abor­tion ref­er­en­dum.

“You’re a b ***** ks. You’re a f***ing b ***** ks, you can f*** off,” Wa­ters (in­set be­low) said, af­ter he had de­cided to end the in­ter­view.

Wa­ters, who

Dun­phy (in­set, top) ac­knowl­edged has been a close friend of his for many years, was ap­pear­ing on Dun­phy’s ‘The Stand’ pod­cast to de­bate the No side of the up­com­ing abor­tion ref­er­en­dum.

The short pod­cast be­gins with Dun­phy ex­plain­ing that he de­cided to post the in­ter­view in full de­spite the abrupt end­ing and asked his lis­ten­ers to make up their own mind on the dis­agree­ment.

The row erupted when Dun­phy asked Wa­ters when he be­lieved life be­gan.

When Wa­ters as­serted he be­lieved life be­gins at con­cep­tion, Dun­phy put it to him that in this def­i­ni­tion the morn­ing-af­ter pill could be seen as abor­tion.

Af­ter a back and forth be­tween the two men, Wa­ters said: “This is typ­i­cal of the kind of me­dia at­tempt to turn this into some­thing else, to talk about hard cases, to make fudgy kind of philo­soph­i­cal ar­gu­ments, which will de­lay and frus­trate and con­fuse the peo­ple about some­thing that is ab­so­lutely so clear... so clear.

“We are talk­ing about whether or not we want to walk in to a polling booth, pick up a pen­cil, put on a black cap and con­demn hun­dreds of thou­sands of chil­dren to death to the rest of your life ev­ery day, ev­ery day, ev­ery day. That’s the ques­tion.”

An­other bout of back and forth en­sued be­fore Wa­ters de­cided to end the in­ter­view. “We have 40 min­utes to do an in­ter­view about this so can we talk about the is­sue or else I am go­ing home. I am fed up of this,” he said.

Dun­phy asked Wa­ters not to go and Wa­ters replied: “You told me this would be a fair in­ter­view. It is not a fair in­ter­view. You’re a b ***** ks. You’re a f***ing b ***** ks, you can f*** off.”

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