Sunday Independent (Ireland)

Crossing the line? How joking about slavery and famine created a new comic star

Daliso Chaponda gets laughs from topics other comedians shun. After shooting to fame on Britain’s Got Talent, he explains why he does it, writes Rob Walker

- Daliso Chaponda’s show, ‘What The African Said’, will play at Belfast Waterfront on Saturday, April 7

JOKES about famine and slavery are not the standard fodder of a comedy routine, but Daliso Chaponda revels in crossing the line. The 38-year-old Malawian was a surprise star of Britain’s Got Talent last year, winning over millions with his cheeky but close-to-the-knuckle gags about life as an African in Europe.

“When I moved here I heard a lot of people talking about the financial crisis,” he bellowed in the auditions phase of the talent show. “I’m from Africa, what are you maniacs talking about? If this is a crisis, where’s Unicef, where’s Bono?

“You can tell me it’s a crisis when they’re flying planes over Birmingham tossing fish and chips out the window! It will be a crisis when there are ads on TV saying: ‘This chav has to walk five miles a day to get a bottle of WKD Blue!’”

Chaponda didn’t win the competitio­n but came third. But so quick has been his rise that 20 extra dates have been added to his debut standup tour, What The African Said, which kicks off in the new year, and a comedy series from him has been commission­ed by BBC Radio 4.

“It’s surreal,” says Chaponda, who this time last year was playing local clubs and struggling to make ends meet.

“I guess people like the fact that I talk about some pretty crazy subjects like slavery and colonialis­m in a way that isn’t guilt-tripping,” he says. “The way I see it, if you can make horrible things funny, you take the teeth out of their demons.”

He has plenty of experience to draw upon. Chaponda was born in Zambia after his parents fled Malawi under the repressive regime of then-president, Hastings Banda. His father ended up working for the United Nations — which meant Chaponda and his five siblings moved every couple of years, living in places including Zambia, Kenya and Somalia.

“It was a mad, colourful time — which is why it often comes up in my jokes,” he says.

But Chaponda has always considered Malawi his homeland, even after causing controvers­y there for his supposed “whitey views”, notably on gay rights. He was even threatened with imprisonme­nt in 2012 when he lampooned the president of the time, Bingu Mutharika, for blaming all Malawi’s problems on Satan.

“He was probably being metaphoric­al but it was funnier for me to take him literally,” says Chaponda. “So I went on a whole rant about how we need to call in exorcists.”

Nationally, the gag became a much bigger deal because Chaponda’s father had returned to Malawi and become the minister for education. Newspaper headlines the next day were all about how the “minister’s son tries to bring down the government”.

“You’d think that my dad being in government would give me some kind of immunity — but actually it was the reason I got into trouble. Everything I said was under more scrutiny,” he says.

His father almost lost his job, but Chaponda looks back on it as a crucial moment that opened his eyes to the power of comedy to make people sit up and take notice.

His family — while remaining supportive, he says — never really understood why he wanted to be a comedian.

Partly this may be because standup is a very western art form — one that he himself wasn’t fully aware of until he went to university in Montreal to study computer programmin­g.

“I was like, wow, people can just stand up on stage and talk about their life? That was really the awakening moment for me. I had to try it.”

He signed himself up for an open event the following week and has chiselled away at stand-up ever since, moving from Canada to South Africa and then to join his brother in Manchester around a decade ago, largely self-financing his own gigs on the pubs and university circuit.

“My family used to joke that I was studying creative poverty,” he says.

Chaponda says he expected very little when he turned up for the auditions of Britain’s Got Talent. At best he saw it as an opportunit­y to get a decent video clip he could use to generate more work.

But he touched a nerve. The video of his opening act picked up 9m views on YouTube and another 8m on Facebook. The audience gave him a standing ovation and Amanda Holden, one of the judges, hit the so-called golden buzzer, sending him straight through to the live semi-finals, which he won.

Overnight, a stand-up star was born.

“I didn’t really believe what was going on,” Chaponda says.

Not all the attention he has received since has been welcome, though.

“People come over and want selfies. But some people take issue with my jokes. Like, ‘you black people are always banging on about slavery’ kind of things. I get that a lot,” he says.

“I aim to be politicall­y correct in what I say, I’m not gratuitous or mean, but I do talk about subjects people shy away from.”

In his forthcomin­g BBC Radio 4 series, which has the working title Daliso Chaponda: Citizen of Nowhere, he plays a sort of relationsh­ip counsellor, helping people to navigate Africa’s historical­ly choppy relationsh­ip with Britain — colonial overlord of much of the continent. The idea, he says, is that it will be “informativ­e but funny”.

“It’ll look at the whole history, not in an accusing way, but in the sense that we need to remember these things,” he says. “Hopefully, laughter makes it easier than somebody just lecturing.”

‘I guess people like that I talk about some pretty crazy subjects — like slavery and colonialis­m — in a way that isn’t guilt-tripping. The way I see it, if you can make horrible things funny, then you take the teeth out of their demons’

 ??  ?? Daliso Chaponda says his new show, ‘What The African Said’ , will be ‘informativ­e but funny’
Daliso Chaponda says his new show, ‘What The African Said’ , will be ‘informativ­e but funny’

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