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Kagame to ‘Post’: Israel helping Rwanda defeat jihadist threats

- • By HERB KEINON

Israel has enhanced Rwanda’s security capacity to deal with terrorist threats coming from jihadist groups both from the Horn of Africa and the western part of the continent, Rwanda’s President Paul Kagame told The Jerusalem Post on Monday.

Jihadist fundamenta­list groups like al-Shabaab in Somalia and Boko Haram in Nigeria “spread quietly, and we need these capacities to prevent that from happening and to deal with it when it happens,” he said in an interview at his suite in the King David Hotel.

Kagame told the Post that Israel’s security cooperatio­n has been important for “developing capacities” for a number of African states, “and I am particular­ly talking about Rwanda.”

Kagame arrived in Jerusalem Saturday night for a two-day visit, his first since 2013. He is considered one of Israel’s strongest friends in Africa. As a sign of that friendship, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu met him on three separate occasions on Monday, including taking the unusual step of greeting him at the President’s Residence along with President Reuven Rivlin.

Kagame said that Netanyahu’s visit to Rwanda last year at this time, as part of his tour of four East African countries, laid the foundation for enhanced cooperatio­n across a wide range of fields, from technology to water management and security.

That visit, he said, either led to new areas of cooperatio­n between the two countries or accelerate­d projects already in the pipeline.

With Netanyahu putting strong emphasis on ties with Africa – and in public statements with African leaders talking about the technologi­cal, agricultur­al and security assistance Israel can provide – Kagame was asked whether he believes African states were realistic in what they were expecting from Israel.

“Where I come from in Rwanda we have learned to limit expectatio­ns,” he said, adding that this is a message he also gives to his African counterpar­ts. “There is no need, and it does not help anyone, to have too high expectatio­ns. Because if they are not met, it results in negatives.”

Kagame said there may be

“one, two or three countries” who expect that after a meeting “there will be money on the table, or that it might come soon after the meeting. My advice when we talk among ourselves is that it does not help to have too high expectatio­ns.”

Asked whether he would advise Netanyahu as well not to promise too much, he replied, “It always is good to remain balanced.”

Asked whether his taking over the presidency of the African Union next year will lead to Israel attaining its long-desired observer status on the body – a status that the Palestinia­n Authority already enjoys – he said, just as Africans should not have unrealisti­c expectatio­ns of Israel, so too Israel should not have unrealisti­c expectatio­ns of him.

Kagame was unwilling to say whether or not he supported such a move, saying that he did not want to endorse it and then prejudge the issue, because he would then not be seen as impartial because of his relationsh­ip with Israel.

Kagame’s relationsh­ip with Israel extends back to 1994, when he was instrument­al in putting an end to the genocide there that killed an estimated one million people.

Netanyahu, in greeting Kagame at Beit Hanassi, said he was “the indispensa­ble bridge on which we marched to make our return to Africa, step by step, with very sound advice, very, very wise counsel.”

Israel’s return to Africa stated with a conversati­on he had with Kagame, Netanyahu said.

Kagame, asked about this by the Post, said, “I don’t think there is a need to exaggerate anything,” adding that Israel was already in the process of reengaging with Africa, and that he contribute­d in helping develop relationsh­ips, a bit based on his friendship with Israel going back to 1994.

He mentioned this type of diplomatic cooperatio­n as one of the things that Israel gained from its relationsh­ip with Rwanda. In 2014, when Rwanda was one of the 10 rotating members of the UN Security Council, the country was essential in preventing the Palestinia­ns from passing a resolution calling for Israel to withdraw to the pre-June 1967 lines by late 2017, and the establishm­ent of a Palestinia­n state with east Jerusalem as its capital.

Netanyahu, in his words of greeting to the Kagame, noted that Rwanda stands up for Israel in internatio­nal forums. “You already expressed a simple principle that we believe in, that is that bilateral relations should be reflected in multilater­al forums.” The dissonance that Israel experience­s with some countries, whereby they have close bilateral ties but then vote against Jerusalem in internatio­nal forums, does not exist with Rwanda, he said.

Netanyahu noted that both Israel and Rwanda have “a tragic legacy.”

“We have pledged, I think both our peoples, one simple pledge: ‘Never again,’” the premier said. “We, who witnessed the greatest holocaust in history, you who witnessed perhaps one of the most recent ones – never again. That’s another great bond between us. You have been a consistent friend to us.” •

 ?? (Yossi Zamir) ?? RWANDAN PRESIDENT Paul Kagame plants a tree in the Jerusalem Forest yesterday.
(Yossi Zamir) RWANDAN PRESIDENT Paul Kagame plants a tree in the Jerusalem Forest yesterday.

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