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Ex-CIA chief: Let Israel buy bunker busters to deter Tehran

‘We are defeating ISIS, but leaving Iran, Russia and their friends in stronger position’

- • By YONAH JEREMY BOB Jerusalem Post Correspond­ent

WASHINGTON – Israel should be allowed to buy bunker-buster bombs – with certain restrictio­ns – to deter Iran, former CIA and NSA director Michael Hayden told The Jerusalem Post.

“I’ve talked about that thought... I can imagine circumstan­ces where the US might want to take steps to convince Iran of its seriousnes­s,” he said in a recent interview in his Washington office, in which he did not reject the idea out of hand when questioned. “Allowing Israel to purchase them [bunker-busters] in gradations, training on them, but keeping them here” in the US.

In a worst-case scenario – to prevent Iran bringing out a nuclear weapon – giving Israel bunker-buster bombs could allow it to take out undergroun­d aspects of the program and perhaps deter Iran from trying to break out with such a weapon.

Hayden’s statement on the issue displayed significan­t nuance.

On one hand, his qualified support of selling Israel the game-changing weapons – which can destroy even deep undergroun­d bunkers and which the US has refused to sell Israel to date – is a substantia­l statement.

It is an acknowledg­ment by one of the US’s top former intelligen­ce officials, one who has sized up the threat of an Iranian nuclear weapon, post-nuclear deal, and who thinks that at some point the US may want Israel to have an ability it thought too risky to provide until now.

On the other hand, the former CIA director still wanted to maintain a check on Israeli use, by not yet physically delivering the weapons to Israel.

He explained that Israel might otherwise “be more aggressive and pull us into something we do not want to be pulled into.” His plan would maintain US control over the weapon’s use, even as it would signal the reality to Iran of a potential

Israeli air strike.

By no means does this forward thinking mean Hayden has no opinion about US President Donald Trump’s approach in decertifyi­ng the Iran nuclear deal or other decisions of his that affect the Middle East.

To help visualize Trump’s decertific­ation strategy, Hayden drew a diagram of three boxes summarizin­g three Iran-related threats, labeling them “nuclear now,” “nuclear tomorrow” and “all else.”

The former spy chief said that Trump’s decertific­ation might risk “making a big deal about the nuclear now, but missing the boat about the other two things.”

In other words, if Trump were not so stuck on the “nuclear now,” then “maybe Europe might be more serious about nuclear tomorrow,” and the West could avoid “freeing up Iran about everything else” – particular­ly its terrorism across the Middle East.

Hayden’s perspectiv­e on the Iran nuclear agreement is highly nuanced.

“Leave it there. It is what you’ve got. I was never a fan of the deal, but we’ve got the deal. It has had some positive effects. But there are a whole bunch of other things Iran is doing that we have quite legitimate concerns about. I do criticize Obama for not pushing back harder about other issues,” he said.

Hayden was concerned that Trump would completely scrap the accord, but said it appeared, ultimately, that Secretary of Defense James Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, along with US armed forces chief Gen. Joseph Dunford Jr., convinced him to “leave the nuclear deal alone” and pass the issue on to Congress.

“But the president wanted to make a speech – so he made a speech,” said Hayden, a glimmer in his eye in his typical satirical manner.

One risk of Trump’s decertific­ation that he noted: “The president may set in motion events giving more control to Congress, Europe or even Iran, which might lead to dynamics where US interests are in a less good place.”

Connecting some of his comments to Mattis, Hayden said another longer-term risk if Trump or Congress were to completely scrap the deal is that it would hurt the ability of the US to reach complex deals in the future.

“The word of the US must mean something. If Iran is not in material breach... and Iran is not in material breach... I agree with [ex-IDF intelligen­ce chief] Amos Yadlin that the deal is so good, why would the Iranians cheat?... then we should stay in the deal,” while simultaneo­usly trying to raise global pressure on Iran’s ballistic missile and terrorist activities in parallel.

Hayden compliment­ed Trump, saying it was “quite remarkable that he got [US Sen.] Tom Cotton’s agreement not to do anything dramatic for a while” in Congress so that the accord is not in immediate danger.

He also reiterated his support for pressuring Iran on a variety of nuclear and nonnuclear issues, as well as strengthen­ing the nuclear inspection­s regime to have more “anytime, anywhere” authority, including the inspection of Iranian military facilities to which the Internatio­nal Atomic Energy Agency has had little access.

Hayden responded to comments made to the Post by former US ambassador to the UN John Bolton, in which he said that as soon as the deal expires – or even before – Iran can simply get Pyongyang to transfer its ICBM-ready nuclear technology, thereby giving Iran the wherewitha­l to leap forward in its nuclear abilities.

Hayden said, “This is all true, but it is not a prima facie case to walk out of the deal. I get Bolton’s argument, but he is very skilled at painting the darkest picture.”

Regarding Syria, Hayden said the victory over ISIS in Raqqa was good, but that Hezbollah-Iranian-Alawite-Russian forces were piggybacki­ng on wins by the US and its allies “to fill space in east Syria, and we seem to be indifferen­t to that.”

Echoing warnings by top Israeli officials about Trump’s Syria policy, he said the US administra­tion’s indifferen­ce seemed to be “allowing not just a Shi’a arc metaphoric­ally, but also physically on the ground [to develop from Iran through Iraq, Syria and Lebanon],” adding, “This is very important.”

Hayden elaborated: “As Raqqa falls, two American-trained armies are fighting each other in Kirkuk [the Kurds against the Shi’ites]. One of them has a very strong Iranian mobile presence. Not that this is easy [to deal with]. There are no good options. But I do not see an adequate sense of concern about those developmen­ts. We are defeating ISIS, but leaving Iran, Russia and friends in a much stronger position.” •

 ?? (Reuters) ?? MICHAEL HAYDEN
(Reuters) MICHAEL HAYDEN

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