The Jerusalem Post

Israel, US, Saudi Arabia can secretly aid regime change in Iran, says ex-Mossad official

- • By YONAH JEREMY BOB

Israel, the US and Saudi Arabia can all secretly help to advance regime change in Iran, former top Mossad official Haim Tomer told The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday.

Tomer spoke to the Post about a range of issues relating to Iran, intelligen­ce and national security, leading into Wednesday’s conference in Tel Aviv on intelligen­ce sponsored by the Intelligen­ce Heritage and Commemorat­ion Center and Israel Defense, where he will be a featured speaker.

Tomer, who held top positions until 2014 in the Mossad – working with foreign intelligen­ce agencies and in operations, technology and other units – was focused on two prior dilemmas regarding Iran: “How to deter Iran; and can Israel… promote regime change?”

He explained that, “the big problem isn’t that Iran has convention­al missiles or potentiall­y worse. The problem is this Khomeini-ist Islamic state... has a defining goal of destroying Israel” which, combined with “weapons of mass destructio­n, [presents] a very deadly scenario.”

“We can deal with the threat itself: nuclear weapons, convention­al Iranian missiles. We can defend against them. But [US] President [Donald] Trump’s actions on the Iran situation have created a major opening… to carefully weigh pushing for regime change as a formal goal,” he said.

Elaboratin­g, he said that since the ayatollahs took control of Iran in 1979, there have been regular rounds of protests illustrati­ng the regime’s socio-economic weakness and its unpopulari­ty with a wide range of the Iranian public.

Importantl­y, Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is old and has been sick for a long time. While there are debates about how sick he is, Tomer points out that most expect he will not last much longer and that his successor will not have nearly the same status or control.

He said that Israel could clandestin­ely help facilitate regime change, while the Saudis could help finance it and the US could support it on various fronts – if all of the parties worked together as part of a cohesive strategy.

Admitting that Israel failed in its attempt to facilitate regime change in Lebanon in the 1980s – when its handpicked peace-promoting Lebanese president Bashir Gemayel was assassinat­ed and Lebanon almost immediatel­y switched back to confrontat­ion with Israel – but he said that its failure should not disqualify Israel from taking a shot with Iran.

“I am not saying it will be a piece of cake – The Iranian Revolution­ary Guard Corps and the Basiji militias are very strong. But… even if regime change does not succeed… it is better to have the Iranians fighting among themselves.”

Asked what specifical­ly Israel could do, he said, “there is potential… clandestin­e actions can lead to change… There is a lot that the Mossad can do when it gets a mission. I cannot go into the details… but it would be clandestin­e.” BESIDES REGIME change, Tomer also described a new strategy for deterring Iran.

He noted that Tehran can already threaten Israel with convention­al ballistic missiles and with attacks from Syrian Shiites, Hezbollah and potentiall­y Hamas – and maybe with nuclear weapons in the future.

“If Iran goes all out, it can fire a large volume of missiles at Tel Aviv and Haifa and can activate Hezbollah to fire 300400 rockets per day or more for an extended period… Iran has the potential to open a very difficult front against Israel… so what do we do?” he asked rhetorical­ly.

First, he dismissed “all sorts of statements about attacking all of these different threats at once. If there was an all-out convention­al war with Iran, we could not use... our weapons fast enough.”

He also said that Israel’s impressive missile defense “provides a response, but is not a hermetic” defense, especially “against hundreds to thousands of Hezbollah, Iranian, Syrian and Gazan rockets at once… so how do we avoid war?”

The key he said was to be publicly clear with Iran about exactly which parts of Iran itself would be targeted if missiles are fired on Israel. “If you shoot at us – it will be oneto-one that we will shoot at you. Israel must declare we will do this and be ready at all times” to take the war directly to Iran.

Tomer moved on to discuss the Mossad’s recent operation appropriat­ing a large volume of secret Iranian nuclear files to Israel. While many have said this was the most successful and complex operation that the Mossad ever performed, he knowingly said that it was impressive, but was not the first massively successful operation.

“The Mossad carries out substantia­l and complex operations – and has carried out many. Since 2005, there were reports of managing various confrontat­ions with Iran. Foreign publicatio­ns say that Iran was eventually infected with a cyber [virus] program called Stuxnet. The Mossad has done many things in Iran before. This was among the most important, but there have been operations like it, and maybe even more important,” he said.

Attempting to predict which of the Mossad’s many units that he ran or had a hand in may be the most important in the future – foreign intelligen­ce cooperatio­n, operations and cyber – Tomer said, “Israel, in its current circumstan­ces, needs to move toward every one [of its allies] working against Iran. This will pay big dividends.”

However, at the same time, it needs to “develop independen­t blue and white abilities where sometimes it needs to do something. [Regarding] targeted killings, very few [foreign intelligen­ce agencies] do this; Israel [is one that] does, according to foreign sources. The head of the Mossad should explore both directions and abilities. And if I understand what is happening, this is what Israel is doing.”

 ?? (Courtesy) ?? HAIM TOMER: Iran can ‘fire 300-400 rockets per day or more for an extended period’ of time at Israel.
(Courtesy) HAIM TOMER: Iran can ‘fire 300-400 rockets per day or more for an extended period’ of time at Israel.

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