The Borneo Post

Time to discuss good guys who are also bad guys

- By Monica Hesse

ONE OF the stranger educationa­l experience­s this past year has been learning about the diverse arsenal of abuses available to men in power. Luring women into hotel rooms and rubbing against their terrified bodies, a la the allegation­s facing screenwrit­er James Toback? Forcing them to ask permission before using the bathroom, as R. Kelly’s accusers have alleged? Every time new accusation­s land, I’ve wondered, with footdraggi­ng curiosity, what specific, surprising fetish would horrify us this time. Harvey Weinstein’s alleged abuse of women set the bar so very high.

The allegation­s against CBS chief Leslie Moonves, which came out late Friday, were a litany of behaviours we might now place in the mid-range of awful. The range for which we’ve employed a suite of clinical terminolog­y: “sexual misconduct.” “Forcible kissing.”

The specific surprise with Moonves came not from any sexual pervertedn­ess but from psychologi­cal perversity. “I recognise that there were times decades ago when I may have made some women uncomforta­ble by making advances,” Moonves said in a statement. “But I always understood and respected - and abided by the principle - that ‘no’ means ‘no.’”

The specific surprise for me was that Moonves, a public voice in the Me Too movement who has also been involved in a national commission on eliminatin­g sexual harassment, probably thinks he’s a good guy.

He might have, as one victim alleged in the New Yorker, thrown himself onto her in a business meeting, trying to kiss her as she squirmed – but, by her own account, he eventually unlocked the door when she begged him to. He might have, as another woman alleged, pulled

If the New Yorker accounts are correct, Moonves also obeyed a whole bunch of other garbage rules that have been condoned by society for a long time: A man’s job is to pursue; a woman’s is to fend him off. Or maybe: Keep trying, and you might wear her down. Or maybe: She might secretly want it; she just needs some convincing to turn a no into a yes. For decades, a man could follow all of those rules and still be “a good man.”

her skirt up during a different work conversati­on and begun to “thrust against her” – but, by her own account, she didn’t tell him no. Fearing for her safety, she claimed in the piece, she instead scrambled to her feet and joked her way out of the room.

Over the weekend, Moonves’s wife offered him her support: “I have known my husband, Leslie Moonves, since the late ‘ 90s,” Julie Chen tweeted. “. . . Leslie is a good man.”

Moonves might have obeyed the classic good-man rule: No means no.

But, if the New Yorker accounts are correct, he also obeyed a whole bunch of other garbage rules that have been condoned by society for a long time: A man’s job is to pursue; a woman’s is to fend him off.

Or maybe: Keep trying, and you might wear her down.

Or maybe: She might secretly want it; she just needs some convincing to turn a no into a yes. For decades, a man could follow all of those rules and still be “a good man.”

In other words, we’re no longer talking about a bad guy - we’re talking about a bad society. We’re talking about a bad society that has allowed “sexual misconduct” to regularly maraud under terms such as “dating.” And that has allowed some women to desperatel­y reach for a door handle, wondering whether tonight’s the night they’ll be raped or murdered, while their dates stand by and bemusedly wonder, “Should I try one more time?” Nearly a year into the Me Too movement, this is where the conversati­on needed to go all along, of course. To the part where we realise we don’t need a lice comb – we need a fumigation. But this is the part where the discussion­s get hard, and the solutions aren’t easy.

The staggering­ly high bar set by Harvey Weinstein was necessary. Women’s claims against him allowed no room for debate; everyone could tell he was disgusting.

But Weinstein also proved to be a useful distractio­n. Everyone could tell he was disgusting, including plenty of men who had also done gross things. They just weren’t as gross as Harvey.

“James is absolutely not a Harvey Weinstein,” said a woman who accused actor James Franco of sexual misconduct, on “Good Morning America” this year.

“Geoffrey Rush is not Harvey Weinstein,” said actress Rachel Griffiths about her acquaintan­ce. Rush stepped down from the Australian Academy of Cinema and Television Arts following accusation­s of “inappropri­ate behaviour.”

Thank God this doesn’t seem as bad as Harvey Weinstein, I thought when I fi rst read the New Yorker piece about Moonves, and then I hated myself: We were talking about the potential devastatio­n of women’s careers and psyches, and here I was, weighing the Moonves allegation­s not against genuinely good behaviour but against a man whose preferred attire for a business meeting was reportedly an open bathrobe.

But I can’t have been the only person who thought that.

Our job is to live in the grey now. To wrestle with the society we’ve produced. To understand we’re not talking about good guys vs. bad guys, but about good guys who are also bad guys.

It’s time to understand that we don’t have to be the worst in order to be very bad.

 ?? — Reuters file photo ?? Television host Julie Chen poses with her husband, CEO of CBS Corp, Leslie Moonves, on the red carpet during arrival at the 89th Academy Awards in Hollywood, California on Feb 26, 2017. (Left) Moonves speaks at the Wall Street Journal Digital Live...
— Reuters file photo Television host Julie Chen poses with her husband, CEO of CBS Corp, Leslie Moonves, on the red carpet during arrival at the 89th Academy Awards in Hollywood, California on Feb 26, 2017. (Left) Moonves speaks at the Wall Street Journal Digital Live...
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