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What can Manafort tell Mueller? Adam Schiff offers some suggestions, writes
What Manafort can tell Mueller
Paul Manafort pleaded guilty yesterday to two criminal charges as part of a deal in which he will offer full cooperation with special counsel Robert Mueller. What might President Donald Trump’s former campaign chair have to say?
I spoke to Rep. Adam Schiff of California, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, who said we cannot be sure of the outlines of the deal they made.
But Schiff did suggest a few possible ways in which Manafort — who was convicted last month on tax and bank fraud charges and faced more legal jeopardy — could shed light on questions involving possible Trump campaign conspiracy with Russian sabotage of the election or obstruction of justice.
First, Schiff noted, Mueller would likely want to know from Manafort as much as possible about the infamous Trump Tower meeting of June 2016, which Donald Trump jnr, Jared Kushner and Manafort attended in the full expectation of getting dirt on former secretary of state Hillary Clinton supplied by the Russian Government. Schiff noted that Mueller would want to know what Manafort can tell him about the “background to the Trump Tower meeting, what took place at the Trump Tower meeting, and what took place after the Trump Tower meeting”.
It has not been established that Trump knew about this meeting at the time, but Manafort might be able to testify to that as well.
On another conspiracy-related front, as Natasha Bertrand points out, Manafort might be in a good position to shed light on what exactly former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos — who has testified as part of his own plea deal that he learned that Russia had stolen dirt on Clinton in the form of “thousands of emails” — might have told campaign higher ups about this at the time, another big unknown.
Schiff suggested Manafort might also be able to shed light on any other illegal activity by the campaign.
He pointed out that we did not learn that Trump had directed estranged Trump lawyer Michael Cohen to make hush money payments in violation of campaign finance law until Cohen admitted it in court. There could be more such conduct that we haven’t learned about.
“There’s potentially a range of other illegal conduct that Manafort could shed light on, in much the way Michael Cohen did,” Schiff told me.
Schiff also pointed out that Manafort could conceivably open up about the joint-defence agreement he previously had with Trump, in which the two shared confidential information in a privileged setting.
“For months, as part of their joint defence agreement, they would have been strategising together,” Schiff noted, adding that Manafort might be able to share information on “what conversations” Trump might have had with Manafort “after the charges were brought against him”.
A long time has passed since Manafort was charged earlier this year. What did Trump and Manafort discuss about this in the interim?
Which leads to questions about a possible pardon for Manafort.
“If the president or his team were dangling a pardon in conversations with Manafort, that would go to the issue of obstruction of justice as well,” Schiff said.
And Manafort could conceivably fill Mueller in on that, if it happened.
In August, after Cohen pleaded guilty, Trump praised Manafort for refusing to “break”, suggesting that Manafort holding strong was very much in his interest. Now Manafort has indeed “broken”, Trump has yet to issue a tweet.