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The Republican’s height and tendency to interrupt are fodder for a political psychology junkie.

- by Marc Wilson

Donald Trump’s height and tendency to interrupt are fodder for a political psychology junkie.

Ihave become unhealthil­y fixated on the US presidenti­al election soap opera. Since political psychology is “my jam”, as a young person might say, it’s reasonable to look at the madefor-research opportunit­ies of the candidates’ debates.

The town hall-style second debate had Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in a venue in which voters could pose questions to the candidates in turn. At least in theory.

Observers have commented that Trump has made this a race like no other. But it’s also different for the simple reason that a woman is running for the first time, which means some of the usual staples are out the window.

Usually, for example, we can look forward to two older white men playing games to see who can appear more statesmanl­ike: exchanging handshakes and gritted-teeth smiles; each trying to look the taller because tall candidates are statistica­lly more likely to win. They would battle it out on the hustings until one bared his belly in surrender.

Women are automatica­lly at a disadvanta­ge in these displays of plumage. In New Zealand, the average male height is about 1.78m, versus the female average of 1.65m. With Trump and Clinton, the gulf is wider: he is 1.88m and she about 1.66m.

If she were his height, people wouldn’t be talking about how presidenti­al she looks, but rather how unusual – less than 5% of women worldwide are that tall. Which is why Clinton reportedly asked for some help for the first debate: a stool was disallowed, but the podium was lowered proportion­ately.

The second debate produced at least two other dominan-cerelated behaviours. First,

Trump loomed zeppelin-like over Clinton’s shoulder as she spoke, or prowled around the stage. Commentato­rs have speculated that his motivation may have been to distract Clinton. But who knows – it is Trump, after all.

The other noticeable thing was the frequency of interrupti­on. Trump interrupts a lot. Not as often as Clinton’s vice-presidenti­al running-mate, Tim Kaine, interrupte­d his counterpar­t, Mike Pence, in their debate, but frequently nonetheles­s.

Interestin­gly, Kaine’s interrupti­on was portrayed as rude, yet talking over other people is a standard feature of language. New Zealand researcher Mike Dunne has shown that interrupti­on is not only common, but also a fairly natural way for speakers to cycle the “floor”, or take the opportunit­y to speak.

As I’ve found through my own research, people who interrupt are generally not perceived as rude but as influentia­l. That is so in Western speech, at any rate – other cultures have different norms concerning interrupti­on.

Part of the reason for this is that not all interrupti­ons are equal. The practice can involve seizing the floor, but also providing support, through agreement or clarificat­ion.

Which takes us to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, another political trailblaze­r. Thatcher routinely complained about being interrupte­d during interviews, and there is reason to think that this is at least partially true. Indeed, she was certainly interrupte­d more than she herself interrupte­d.

That’s not surprising, as women tend to interrupt less than men. In the 1980s, British researcher Geoffrey Beattie found that Thatcher often claimed interrupti­on at times when observers thought she had finished speaking – because she had given the kind of cues we associate with the end of a turn.

She also, humorously I think, would protest, “Please don’t interrupt”, before anyone else spoke, thus creating the impression that she was the victim of interrupti­on more than was actually the case.

For now, thank goodness, opportunit­ies for such analysis are coming to an end.

Talking over other people is a standard feature of language.

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Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump . Below, political trailblaze­r Margaret Thatcher.
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