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No laughing matter

The “I was just joking” defence doesn’t cut it any more.

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Workplace banter is often the Trojan horse for sexual harassment. The excuse that “I was just joking” becomes the fallback position for perpetrato­rs when they’re called out, says Barbara Plester.

A senior lecturer in the University of Auckland’s faculty of business and economics, Plester chairs the equity committee, and she has studied workplace humour since 2002.

“I started off thinking it was such a lovely topic, but it’s not always that nice – it has a dark side.” Humour is a necessary part of the work environmen­t, but it can have “a bite or a barb in it, when someone is really having a dig”.

“[The founder of psychoanal­ysis Sigmund] Freud says we use humour to relieve ourselves, and the things we release in humour are sex and aggression. It’s a way of saying the unsayable. But the ‘just a joke’ defence [for sexual harassment] has long gone. We don’t get away with that any more.”

Although there is usually a power imbalance in sexual harassment cases, Plester says she’s also seen cases, such as Hayley Young’s, in which a subordinat­e targets a superior. “Harassment can happen by men to men and women to men, but it’s predominan­tly men to women.”

A man might tell a dirty joke “to see where it gets us. She laughs; it escalates. But if he’s the boss, people laugh at his jokes because he’s in a position of power. He thinks it went down well, but he’s forgotten he’s the boss. Laughter doesn’t mean I loved your joke. It can be embarrassm­ent, and it’s really hard to stand up and say, ‘I’m not laughing at that.’”

If you can’t put your hand up overtly, she says, you can always try “unlaughter”. “You stay po-faced and stony and it sends a very strong message if everyone else is laughing and you’re glaring.”

Harassment is more likely to happen at work events where people are drinking – alcohol-fuelled occasions featured in the recent Human Rights Commission case in which a senior financial officer harassed an intern and in the Russell McVeagh complaints. Plester says she knows of firms that have stopped hosting such occasions because of that risk.

Men might claim they can’t be mindreader­s, or that banter at work is healthy, but Plester says work, or work events, is no place for sexual humour of any kind.

come out. Once a quirk of the technology industry, non-disclosure agreements have proliferat­ed across the business landscape, purportedl­y placing every secret, every item of misconduct out of public view.”

Reporting by newsroom.co.nz on the Russell McVeagh case has also exposed another potential barrier to complainan­ts getting the justice they deserve: the human resources (HR) staff who often handle the allegation­s may face serious conflicts of interest. Newsroom reported that the big law firm’s HR team advised one clerk complainin­g of sexual assault to be careful not to defame the perpetrato­r. They suggested she look at the summer programme “holistical­ly” and arranged for meetings about the assaults to take place at a cafe in the firm’s building. A support person for the clerk told Newsroom that “the firm was primarily concerned with its interests – its reputation, its brand and its income. Only when the intern’s interests were in line with the firm’s interests did she get assistance.”

A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE

HR staff are obliged to deal fairly with both the accused and accuser, but when the accused is in the company management, the accuser is a junior staff member and the employer is paying the HR person’s salary, it’s not hard to see the rock and the hard place on either side of them.

“I feel a bit sorry for HR teams,” says University of Auckland senior lecturer Barbara Plester, of the faculty of business and economics. “They have skin in the game, because they need to keep their jobs and they need to keep the hierarchy happy.” Hiring independen­t external investigat­ors is one way companies can avoid the appearance of a conflict.

Denise Hartley-Wilkins, a board member of the industry body Human Resources Institute of New Zealand, says handling harassment cases can be “a really tough call” for HR teams. “Often people are protected at senior levels for a number of reasons – power, prestige or status, or they could be a high-fee earner. That can happen, and it’s not okay because it sends out the wrong signal. It’s wrong from beginning to end.

“[HR staff] have a duty of care to employees to provide a safe and respectful workplace and to follow through on complaints or concerns. But they’re also employees, and depending on the culture of the organisati­on, they’re at risk of losing their job in a culture that protects the harasser.”

Hartley-Wilkins says that if HR teams are to get traction in managing sexual harassment, they need to know that policies are being led, owned and championed from the top. “Codes of conduct are just sheets of paper; it’s how they are put into practice that counts. To bring them alive, they’ve got to have teeth, they’ve got to be widely communicat­ed and understood, and there need to be clear reporting systems right up to board level.”

Associate Professor Bevan Catley, of Massey University’s school of management, says employers commonly fail to investigat­e allegation­s at all or conduct an inadequate inquiry because of minimal evidence, lack of witnesses or preconceiv­ed impression­s of parties. Policies and procedures are often lacking, incomplete or not followed, or there is poor communicat­ion around the investigat­ion process and potential outcomes.

He says the #MeToo coverage shows there is a dearth of data on the prevalence of sexual harassment in the workplace. A question on whether people have been exposed to it will be added to the new Workplace Barometer survey being introduced by Massey’s Healthy Work Group this year.

CHANGE IN THE WIND

Irwin and Eggleton, who have spent more than 40 years between them in sexual harassment investigat­ion and workplace training, say they’re confident the problem is in decline, particular­ly when compared with bullying, which has been on the rise.

“Change is happening,” says Eggleton. “You don’t see the porn calendars at the panel beaters any more, and I think younger women are feeling more empowered to stand up and say no.”

In 2013, Massey researcher­s interviewe­d 250 people with occupation­al health and safety responsibi­lities and only 40% agreed that leaders in their organisati­on were willing to stand up to people who ill-treated others in their workplace. “Unless your organisati­onal leaders are prepared to confront it and deal with it, things won’t change,” says Catley.

In February, Minister for Women Julie Anne Genter announced that from July, MBIE would keep centralise­d records of sexual misconduct allegation­s mediated in the workplace. The figures are already kept as part of the ministry’s mediation records, but are bundled in with other cases.

Auckland employment law specialist Phillipa Muir, a partner at Simpson Grierson, acts mainly for large employers and says although it’s “unfortunat­ely” been more common for a senior harasser to remain in his position while a subordinat­e accuser ends up leaving, that culture is changing and tolerance levels are declining. In her experience, complainan­ts who leave their job “almost always” receive a payout – as they should – if they’ve been harassed and don’t want to stay.

She won’t comment on the typical size of such settlement­s. “It depends on the size of the employer, the earnings of the complainan­t, what predominan­tly she is wanting out

“Often people are protected at senior levels for a number of reasons – power, prestige or status.”

of this, and sometimes on medical expenses being paid if they’ve been very distressed by this and have developed anxiety.”

Muir doesn’t agree with calls for an end to confidenti­ality agreements, saying complainan­ts usually want to protect their own privacy and “move on”.

“I don’t think these settlement­s are designed to allow harassers to carry on in that way. Potentiall­y there could be situations where they don’t learn from [the experience], but more often than not, I think they do. You don’t tend to see serial harassers, and I’ve worked in this area for quite a long time.”

She says more employers are taking a stand and are declining to enter into confidenti­ality agreements with the harasser. Muir says the organisati­ons she works with have “great intentions” and “do set a good culture”, but many workplaces can have staff who don’t fit the culture or are out of touch with today’s accepted standards of behaviour. “You can train employees as best you can, instil a good culture and by and large build good work processes, but you can still have a rogue employee.”

But Hayley Young, who’s fighting for compensati­on for the harassment and rape she says she suffered in the navy, says culture and policy in theory are often very different from what happens in practice.

“The party line of the navy would have been ‘Yes, you have to report it’, but the reality was that would have been complete career suicide.”

Usually, sexual harassers target subordinat­es, but for Young, an officer managing male subordinat­es, the opposite was true. “It felt to me like the executive curl on my shoulders made me a target. I think they respected me as a person, but it came down to a whole lot of unconsciou­s biases, like male privilege seeping away and they weren’t sure how to deal with it. These guys were my friends – really nice guys – but in that environmen­t they acted in a way that was consistent with the culture.”

Young says harassment occurred in microcultu­res – in the machinery control room (MCR), for example, but not on the bridge, where the atmosphere was like a courtroom. “In the MCR, I had authority, but I was completely outnumbere­d. It’s an interestin­g position that they don’t put many people in, where you have authority over the people you are relying on to train you. Technicall­y, I outranked them, but they were teaching me about the machinery spaces so I had to keep them onside to be able to do my job and to learn.”

The alleged rape to which Young’s complaint relates happened in 2009, soon after her training began, when she was posted to a British naval base for 18 months. She says she was propositio­ned for sex up to six times a day in the UK and about once a month in New Zealand. She left the navy in 2012. Young went to the Court of Appeal in March in a bid for compensati­on in New Zealand and Britain. The court’s decision is reserved.

Wellington Unite Union organiser Jasmine Taankink, who represents workers in fast-food outlets, cinemas, hotels and call centres, says sexual harassment claims

“You can train employees, instil a good culture and build good work processes, but you can still have a rogue employee.”

are still “quite frequent” and, in the past five years, she hasn’t noticed a change in the numbers she deals with, which hover around six a year.

“Always the perpetrato­rs are men, and in the cases I’ve dealt with, they’re a manager or shift supervisor, so there’s a power dynamic. In most cases, they’re older than the person they’re targeting, but I’ve dealt with a lot of managers who are young cocky guys who have really big heads, and they bring that to work and act really inappropri­ately.”

Harassment usually begins with inappropri­ate comments but quite often progresses from there. Taankink says the union often asks for a proven harasser to attend a course to address his behaviour, but there are few on offer. “We raised it with the Human Rights Commission and they said we’d just have to look around.”

Like others we spoke to for this story, Taankink was critical of confidenti­ality agreements. “I’m not for workplace gossip either, but I dislike someone having a traumatic experience at work and not being able to share it.”

CASES TO FOLLOW

The genesis of the #MeToo movement on social media was the exposure of high-profile sexual predators in the arts and media: Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Kevin Spacey, Bill O’Reilly, Roger Ailes and many others.

In New Zealand, the highest-profile fall from grace so far has been that of former Shortland Street actor Rene Naufahu, who in January was sentenced to a year’s home detention after admitting indecent assaults on six acting students.

But other cases are expected to follow. Less than a week after the Naufahu sentencing, the Screen Women’s Action Group (Swag) was launched with the aim of changing an industry culture that enables sexual harassment and discrimina­tion.

A Swag co-founder and spokeswoma­n, producer Emma Slade, says women in the industry are potentiall­y more vulnerable to harassment because they’re often short-term nomadic contractor­s, frequently working away from home in a hierarchic­al business. “People don’t know what to do, who to talk to or what to say. They are terrified of losing their jobs. People say you should speak out, but that’s a really hard thing to do, and the younger you are and the more down the chain you are, the harder it is.

“Do we have a New Zealand Harvey Weinstein? I don’t know. We’d like to think we’d know if there was, but it’s really hard to say because so very few cases are reported, because of how women feel. The biggest fear is being blackliste­d, so that prevents people from coming forward. They are terrified; they don’t want to put their head above the parapet.”

Two meetings in March of hundreds of women in the industry came up with a number of recommenda­tions that Swag will send to industry bodies. They include trained “sexual harassment reps” on each project to whom workers can take complaints, an industry-wide code of conduct and education enabling people to better identify harassment. “The nasty end is easy to identify, but what about the other, deathby-a-thousand-cuts kind of stuff?”

Slade says women who experience or see harassment happening tend to “just put up with it and try to find ways of managing it and dealing with it. They say, ‘It’s just the way it is.’ What came up a lot is [harassers] saying, ‘Don’t take it so seriously; I was just having a laugh.’

“As New Zealanders, we do tend to joke and laugh. We work in a stressful, intense environmen­t, so you need humour to liven it up. But when people get a bit handsy or make comments that are inappropri­ate, women don’t want to say anything in case they look like a spoilsport.”

Slade says she’s seen harassment happen, but until now, didn’t know what to do about it. “I thought what I saw were isolated incidents, but the more I’ve got involved with the group, the more I realise it wasn’t isolated. It’s happened before and more than once. And the horror of realising that … that’s disturbing. Now if I saw something I would totally call it out.”

Slade says she’s heard of allegation­s in the New Zealand screen industry that “are too sensitive to discuss and in the process of being dealt with. Actors have to be vulnerable to produce the best performanc­es, and anyone who is junior is vulnerable. Perpetrato­rs can spot someone vulnerable a mile off.”

At one Swag meeting, a woman asked if she should “name and shame” a perpetrato­r. Slade says a rape prevention adviser replied that she should think about her own safety before making that decision. “Are there going to be repercussi­ons? Are you going to be trawled through the media and be given a really hard time? You can get so angry you just want to let it out, but before that, you need a community around to support you.”

She says the #MeToo movement has made everyone think twice about their behaviour. “That’s not necessaril­y a bad thing. If you’ve been doing something inappropri­ate, you have to suffer the consequenc­es. It makes everybody think twice about what they’re doing and that’s terrific.”

In March, 450 women in the industry responded to a Swag survey on harassment. One in three said they had experience­d it, and two in three said they had either experience­d or witnessed it. Slade says the results are disturbing compared with rape prevention education statistics suggesting one in five women has experience­d harassment.

She suspects there are men in the New Zealand screen industry who have a Weinstein-like reputation. “I do think they’ll be afraid, because they would have seen this rolling out overseas. A lot of people have lost their jobs because of this behaviour, and it’s happening in New Zealand and in other industries. It’s like a tidal wave. Watch out: it’s coming.”

In a screen-industry survey, two women in three said they had either experience­d or witnessed harassment.

 ??  ?? Barbara Plester. “It’s really hard to stand up and say, ‘I’m not laughing at that.’”
Barbara Plester. “It’s really hard to stand up and say, ‘I’m not laughing at that.’”
 ??  ?? Phillipa Muir: commonly, harassers stay and subordinat­e accusers end up leaving. Bevan Catley: employers often fail to investigat­e.
Phillipa Muir: commonly, harassers stay and subordinat­e accusers end up leaving. Bevan Catley: employers often fail to investigat­e.
 ??  ?? Screen Women’s Action Group co-founder Emma Slade: fear of being blackliste­d prevents people from coming forward.
Screen Women’s Action Group co-founder Emma Slade: fear of being blackliste­d prevents people from coming forward.

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