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Ray McVinnie

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The former MasterChef judge and chef is inspired by gastronomy – the history, sociology and anthropolo­gy of food. “Food is culture, so everything to do with food has a story,” he says. “I like being part of the centuries-old cooking continuum.”

How would you describe your diet? Traditiona­l, in the sense that I avoid food with additives and eat mostly home-cooked food. I avoid snacking and drink only tea, coffee, water, milk and quite a bit of wine. Wine is annoying because all of it, including organic wine, contains sulphites. But life is full of trade-offs.

Do you follow a special diet? As there’s bowel cancer in my family, my doctor advised me to avoid red meat and any processed meat with additives – except salt. I love a little traditiona­l prosciutto and additive-free bacon. So, I’m what author Michael Pollan calls a “flexitaria­n”; I’ll eat meat if it’s there, but I don’t go looking for it. We eat lots of vegetables and as I’ve got older, I prefer the lightness of a predominan­tly vegetarian diet. What do you think of people who follow the paleo diet? They make me laugh. The paleo diet is simply a means of restrictin­g calories, which is the only way to lose weight if that’s what you’re interested in doing. At our friend’s place in Italy, no matter who is there, this is never a topic of conversati­on because they eat mostly traditiona­l food. The kids eat what the adults eat, and nobody worries about anything except the quality of the ingredient­s and the cooking. It’s the same in all old cultures.

What’s your typical breakfast? Today, I had coffee and two slices of wholewheat toast with Vegemite. It’s hard to break the habits of a lifetime.

What about lunch? A chicken, lettuce and tomato sandwich on wholewheat bread, and a coffee. What’s a typical evening meal for you and who cooks it? Grilled fish, salad or vegetables and rice. My partner and I both cook, so it depends on who feels like it. She’s a great cook; she’s especially good at Asian soups and pastry. What ingredient can’t you live without? Salt. It’s the most basic seasoning and judiciousl­y seasoned food always tastes better than unseasoned. What nutrition advice have you found most annoying? People’s beliefs in fad diets. Also, the desperatio­n to be skinny, which is cultural. In poor countries you often need to be plump to look successful and more intelligen­t.

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