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Conceptual artist Laurie Anderson, coming to curate and perform at the New Zealand Festival of the Arts, talks to GRAHAM REID about the collision of art and politics, interspeci­es music and the legacy of Lou Reed.

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Conceptual artist Laurie Anderson, coming to curate and perform at the New Zealand Festival of the Arts, talks to Graham Reid about the collision of art and politics, interspeci­es music and the legacy of Lou Reed.

The irony isn’t lost on us: Laurie Anderson, the American multimedia artist on the leading edge of innovative technology, can’t get cellphone coverage. Admittedly, she’s on a constructi­on site but all we have are bursts of static between yawning silences, with which she could doubtless do something provocativ­ely creative. We postpone until she’s back in her Brooklyn studio.

“This is downtime,” says the perpetuall­y busy 72-year-old the next day. “I’m, painting big and pretty bad paintings, but I don’t worry if they’re bad. It’s just pure experiment­ing and really nice to do.”

However, even downtime is productive (she’ll probably exhibit the ones that aren’t horrible in the spring, she says) and the following day she’s giving a Sunday afternoon talk at the Brooklyn Public Library entitled The Size of the Con, a monologue-cumdiscuss­ion about preparing for the 2020 election.

“It’s called that because the writer George Trow talked about the US being based on the idea that everything could be so big: the bridges, skyscraper­s, the population …

“Then the question was, ‘What else is big?’ Well, there’s the marketplac­e, and the ultimate question to consider is ‘the size of the con’. I thought that was a good way to put it, people feel that.”

Then Anderson – a guest artist/curator alongside director/choreograp­her Lemi Ponifasio and actor/composer Bret McKenzie for next year’s New Zealand Festival of the Arts in Wellington – embarks on a digressive considerat­ion of the American socio-political landscape and where artists fit in. Or fail to do so.

She speaks of widespread cynicism and people confronted by the constant white noise where “the media is entertainm­ent”, each day delivering new drama.

“It’s a wild time to be an artist, a wild time to be alive,” she laughs without discernibl­e humour. “I never thought I’d see anything like this, ever. I’m trying to find new ways of expression rather than just saying, ‘Can you believe what he just said?’, because that’s getting boring.”

She admits she struggles with how artists should respond in such times, and notes some don’t feel they have more obligation to talk about it than any other citizen, “except we do have tools to talk about it”.

But many are tired (“there’s a lot of depression”), and despite her measured responses and penetratin­gly philosophi­cal rather than directly political work, she says: “I’m not trying to pretend I’m reasonable and they’re insane because that’s the game, you make the other side into some weird

“I’m trying to find new ways of expression rather than just saying, ‘Can you believe what he just said?’”

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 ??  ?? 1. Laurie Anderson and Lou Reed spent 21 years together. 2. An early stage performanc­e. 3. With Patti Smith, who inducted Reed into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2015. 4. In 1987. 5. With Debbie Harry early this year. 6. With David Bowie. 7. With Andy Warhol.
1. Laurie Anderson and Lou Reed spent 21 years together. 2. An early stage performanc­e. 3. With Patti Smith, who inducted Reed into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2015. 4. In 1987. 5. With Debbie Harry early this year. 6. With David Bowie. 7. With Andy Warhol.

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